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Right up to the point when something disastrous happens that is determined wouldn't have happened if an AFDD had been fittedAnything other than this is a recommendation which means it does not need to be done
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Right up to the point when something disastrous happens that is determined wouldn't have happened if an AFDD had been fittedAnything other than this is a recommendation which means it does not need to be done
As long as you have followed the regulations and don't decide yourself what constitutes as a recommendation then there is no come back. The regs aren't there to trick you. They may seem to contradict themselves sometimes but a recommendation is a recommendation. When it comes to AFDDs they state where you shall you them, and even define what they mean and the recommend where else they could be used. If you decide that your not sure then use them everywhere then you won't need to worry.Right up to the point when something disastrous happens that is determined wouldn't have happened if an AFDD had been fitted
You will have to let us know if they give any problems.Ive just put a board full of afdds on a thatch re wire as im not on a price so thought even if it gives 1% extra safety im doing it, (im an ex fireman and they burn well ) but the rest of my jobs i wont, they do have Bluetooth though so you can communicate with them with your phone with the hager app
That is a very good example of where AFDD would be a sensible choice even though nor mandated.Ive just put a board full of afdds on a thatch re wire as im not on a price so thought even if it gives 1% extra safety im doing it, (im an ex fireman and they burn well ) but the rest of my jobs i wont, they do have Bluetooth though so you can communicate with them with your phone with the hager app
Neither will I Dusty, but the point being... If there is a fire due to arcing then it will be the electrician who is deemed to be at fault because the IET have covered themselves with the word 'recommended'. I will now continue this bottom covering exercise by also adding the word 'recommend' in my quote.Never fitted one and until they become common place at less than 1/2 the price I won't be fitting any
Maybe not before catching the house on fire, though.May have started with a serial arc, but there's enough carbon there to leak sufficient current to the cpc to trip a RCD.
Not continuity between cpc & line in this fault.RCD would have taken care of the above.
NOT HAGER my god anything but them....they dont even trip when they are nearly on fireI live in a timber clad and old oak barn conversion. It has been fully rewired to a high standard. Because of multiple buildings, we have multiple CUs, all Hager. We recently decided to fit AFDDs to all areas where we have any kind of fire risk concern and had no difficulty getting them via our trade accounts. What is interesting is the resistance to using them which I think is largely driven by cost. We paid £102 each, plus fitting and testing and some other necessary changes due to CU space. This is not a trivial sum for AFDD multiples in domestic properties. I am a developer, not a qualified electrician, though I am familiar with the regs. If the regulatory authorities think AFDDs will materially reduce fire risk then having vague wording like "recommended" is ridiculous. Eventually insurance companies will drive this. I specify them in developments now. They make sense to me.
Ive got a EICR to do today that requires measuring the building height ( floors ) to see if it come under HRRB regs and needs AFD’s
They better hope its under 18m !! Otherwise its 5x new AFD and thats not cheap !
NOT HAGER my god anything but them....they dont even trip when they are nearly on fire
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