Downstairs toilet... regulations

[Gareth_OJ]

Hi,
Currently rewiring my new house and have accepted that the building inspector wants and extractor fan in the downstairs loo. However I'm struggling to work out what is acceptable in regards to "zones"
There is no shower or bath, but there is a small sink and the toilet.
The extractor requires a 3A fuse.
I can't seem to see a statement in the regs or onsite guide to what the zoning requirement actually is for this small room.

As a 3pole pull cord fused fan isolator doesn't seem to exist can I fit an Ip20 rated fused fan isolator switch to the wall above 2.25m ?

 

[James]

There are no specific regs for a wc, it is not a special location.
Fan is under building regs not electrical regs.

 

[Andy78]

No zones in a WC. It doesn't fall under section 701.
A fan isolator can go in there no worries. Make it easier by using a fan that doesn't require fusing down.

 

[littlespark]

As above. Not a special location, as it’s not “a room containing a bath or shower”
It’s just common sense not to put a double socket next to the basin.

Although, it’s somewhere to charge your phone when you’re taking a dump

 

[Gareth_OJ]

Thank you. Wanted to be sure I wasn't missing something.
Will look out for another extract that doesnt need fusing down.

Cheers

 

[Andy78]

Thank you. Wanted to be sure I wasn't missing something.
Will look out for another extract that doesnt need fusing down.

Cheers

I can recommend Envirovent.

 

[Mark Wright]

There are no specific regs for a wc, it is not a special location.
Fan is under building regs not electrical regs.

Where can I find the regulation please?

 

[Andy78]

Where can I find the regulation please?

Part F is ventilation

 

[Let me think]

Part F is ventilation

If only there was an easy way to remember Part F is for ventilation. What could 'F' represent to help us remember it is related to ventilation??

 

[telectrix]

could it be Fentilation??

anyway, as regards fan... why not fedd separate from lights, switch on outside of room, alongside light switch. get rid of the dangly strings.... so 1970's. and if there's a window in the room, no need for a 3 pole isolator. (there's enough Poles over here as it is. ).

 

[Andy78]

If only there was an easy way to remember Part F is for ventilation. What could 'F' represent to help us remember it is related to ventilation??

Fan ? ?

 

[richy3333]

F for fresh air?

 

[telectrix]

F for fresh air?

in a downstairs bog???? YMBJ.
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Fresh Air Required Today, or FART as an acronym.

 

[Gareth_OJ]

anyway, as regards fan... why not feed separate from lights, switch on outside of room, alongside light switch. get rid of the dangly strings.... so 1970's. and if there's a window in the room, no need for a 3 pole isolator. (there's enough Poles over here as it is. ).

Strangely I cant stand the ugly fan switch being on the outside of the room, will ruin my hallway feng shui! I've had to relent for the 2 bathrooms upstairs but the downstairs bog is having a dangle one inside the room. my building inspector seems to think there is need for extract ventilation even though its only place can be directly above the opening window...
Fan will have its own feed from the junction box in the ceiling with a switched live for the timer from the lightswitch.

 

[telectrix]

Strangely I cant stand the ugly fan switch being on the outside of the room, will ruin my hallway feng shui! I've had to relent for the 2 bathrooms upstairs but the downstairs bog is having a dangle one inside the room. my building inspector seems to think there is need for extract ventilation even though its only place can be directly above the opening window...
Fan will have its own feed from the junction box in the ceiling with a switched live for the timer from the lightswitch.

or you could fit an occupancy sensor. no outside switch and no dangly string.

 

[Mark Wright]

Do I really have to say it, no I won't lower myself to it.

Fart there I said it - the reason you need a fan
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Ok - what I mean really is the need for a Isolation switch - 3A fused, 3 pole switch etc that you often see where can I find this info?

 

[Andy78]

Do I really have to say it, no I won't lower myself to it.

Fart there I said it - the reason you need a fan
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Ok - what I mean really is the need for a Isolation switch - 3A fused, 3 pole switch etc that you often see where can I find this info?

Usually manufacturers instructions.

 

[Mark Wright]

Thanks, there is reg for fitting a switch for fixed equipment for maintenance etc isn't there?

 

[telectrix]

it can be isolated by turning off MCB. if there is a window, you don't need the light for maintenance. whoever wrote that reg. hadn't heard of head torches.

 

[Mark Wright]

I often think when you hear if all lighting circuits were on one RCD this would not comply - yeah there is such a thing as a torch.

but something like a fan is there not a reg/requirement for local isolation/switching?