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Can anyone remember those dreadful ceiling roses in the 1970’s,think they were Volex, they had loose connectors, which then had to be pushed into a slot on the base,awful.
Trying to get pics but not found any yet,they also had batten holders like it.
 
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I remember some that were slightly smaller than what we have now, with a separate ring against the ceiling, but I think the terminals were fixed into the plastic....
Oh, and the old brown ones, tiny. With a braided twisted flex down to the lamp holder.
 
Were they the ones that had an upturned connector block that was pushed into the cutout slot in the rose ?
 
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my memory ok thanks ,what was the question !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Everything moves on, usually for the best.

The ones with the loose choc block were far better that the earlier ones with terminals fixed into the base, at least you could work on them without breaking your neck then push the block back up into the base.

In another 20 or 30 years it's quite possible people will say anyone remember those dreadfull spring loaded ones, possibly called Wagos, everyone raved about them, used them everywhere, then they started failing and millions of then had to be replaced.
 
Everything moves on, usually for the best.

The ones with the loose choc block were far better that the earlier ones with terminals fixed into the base, at least you could work on them without breaking your neck then push the block back up into the base.

In another 20 or 30 years it's quite possible people will say anyone remember those dreadfull spring loaded ones, possibly called Wagos, everyone raved about them, used them everywhere, then they started failing and millions of then had to be replaced.

Bit like metal fuseboxes, who on earth thought that was a good idea?

Loads of those wylex boxes had to be replaced, the fuse would blow, the plasma jet would shoot out of the ceramic tube in the holder and start an arc between the metal case and busbar end of the wylex fuse, so the main dno fuse would trip!

Metal fuseboxes, - glad to see the back of them, much better now with the safer plastic consumer units.

Oh, err, hang on a minute...
 
Were they the ones that had an upturned connector block that was pushed into the cutout slot in the rose ?
Yep that’s them
 
Can anyone remember those dreadful ceiling roses in the 1970’s,think they were Volex, they had loose connectors, which then had to be pushed into a slot on the base,awful.
Trying to get pics but not found any yet,they also had batten holders like it.

I had forgotten all about these ceiling roses, but remember them well now that you've mentioned them. :)

This is the offending item:

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Images courtesy of Flameport Enterprises.

Flameport Enterprises, incidentally, is John 'JW' Ward's website, and is a treasure-trove of useful information. JW is to be commended for the amount of time and effort he has invested in putting together this valuable resource methinks.
 
I had forgotten all about these ceiling roses, but remember them well now that you've mentioned them. :)



Flameport Enterprises, incidentally, is John 'JW' Ward's website, and is a treasure-trove of useful information. JW is to be commended for the amount of time and effort he has invested in putting together this valuable resource methinks.
Thanks my nightmares are returning,they certainly look worse than ever.
I had forgotten all about these ceiling roses, but remember them well now that you've mentioned them. :)

This is the offending item:

Flameport Enterprises, incidentally, is John 'JW' Ward's website, and is a treasure-trove of useful information. JW is to be commended for the amount of time and effort he has invested in putting together this valuable resource methinks.
They still look awful, my nightmares are returning.
 
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I remember some that were slightly smaller than what we have now, with a separate ring against the ceiling, but I think the terminals were fixed into the plastic....
Ashley made those. I have one in the room I'm in, somewhere.
My favourites are the deep Crabtree ceramic roses, with the burgundy twisted flex.
 
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JKs 2nd pic - I removed one last week. I thought it was a DIY bodge
 
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Remember the clip on cover roses which had spring terminals to connect the cover and flex to the back plate. If I see them on a periodic I hardly ever remove them as years of paint stops them clicking back on.
 
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anyone remember these? brilliant design if you wanted to drop the fitting for cleaning, whatever.
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Yep. Fitted one recently on a small posh chandelier. You can still buy this fittings

I've used these Lewden roses in the past, and will surely use them again in the future. As Tel said in his post, the design is brilliant. Great for suspending small chandeliers of up to 5kg in weight.

They come in chrome and a brass finish too.
 
Lewden 'maestro' ceiling rose, I tried to get one a little while ago and couldn't get hold of one.
They used to be white, brass, chrome and possibly black

CEF have them in white (MB11E) and chrome (MC11C), but not brass it seems.
 
I fitted some in a church. They were at high level with long drops... very handy.
 
Look what I found in the same house as the strange cellar, strange fluorescent light and spaghetti tails from some of my other posts.....

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