New career skills (court action)??

[ipf]

I see a lot of negative feedback regarding New Career Skills, and im not sure why.

I trained with them and 8 years on have a successful electrical contractor company. You obtain the city and guilds qualifications you need with them to demonstrate competence which is what the law requires.
You don't get anything different from a 3 year college course. As for the advertised earnings, a qualified electrician should be earning 30k+.
My earnings have been over 60k the past couple of years. You do the maths to whether the course is worth while it not.
Personally anyone self motivated enough to do the New Careers Skill course should seriously consider being self employed at the end of it, far more to be earned that way and easier to get work as you can't show a future employer any experience.

There are a lot of other companies offering much the same sort of course but they have a huge amount of hidden extras to pay. This was the only course i found that everything was included in the one price.

As Rob says, total bull.....but I'm not laughing....some dipsticks actually believe it.....and who's this 'qualified electrician?

 

[Bobster]

Are you replying from personal experience..??

if your comparing 5 weeks of exam taking to 3years at college with on site experience as being the same thing. Your out of your mind!

 

[marcuslyle]

if your comparing 5 weeks of exam taking to 3years at college with on site experience as being the same thing. Your out of your mind!

Yes, i understand your perspective. However it's not just 5 weeks of exam taking, and anyone that thinks they can get by just doing that is destined to fail. You need to firstly have some basic knowledge and a passionate interest in doing it. Then there is about 500 hrs of home studying which if applied at the same rate as an apprentice would take 3 years. Essentially the course enables an individual to fast track the work. They do advise on the course getting a free work placement with a company to obtain experience which i know all the firms around me are happy to do.

Training as an electrician is not as clear cut as they perhaps make it sound by very possible if you put in the effort.

 

[marcuslyle]

As Rob says, total bull.....but I'm not laughing....some dipsticks actually believe it.....and who's this 'qualified electrician?

As you quote asks "who's this electrician"

well i am an NICEIC (D112132) electrician running a electrical contractor company now that i created in Oxfordshire, with exceptionally high standards.
I hold city and guilds in the BS7671, Testing and inspecting, and periodic inspecting. New Career Skills got me started with the with the BS7671. the rest i then achieved through NICEIC.
New Career skills don't guarantee a job at the end, and advise you obtain a free experience position with a firm. They provide the basic training on a fast track method, so you can create opportunities yourself.

If someone's expecting a fast track training on any industry, and expect to walk in a job earning high wages immediately then im sorry they need to look at their expectations again.

 

[Englishman]

As you quote asks "who's this electrician"

well i am an NICEIC (D112132) electrician running a electrical contractor company now that i created in Oxfordshire, with exceptionally high standards.
I hold city and guilds in the BS7671, Testing and inspecting, and periodic inspecting. New Career Skills got me started with the with the BS7671. the rest i then achieved through NICEIC.
New Career skills don't guarantee a job at the end, and advise you obtain a free experience position with a firm. They provide the basic training on a fast track method, so you can create opportunities yourself.

If someone's expecting a fast track training on any industry, and expect to walk in a job earning high wages immediately then im sorry they need to look at their expectations again.

Anyone who reads this, and can't see that you're connected to this "new career skills" crap needs putting down. You're parasites who risk innocent/jobless people's lives.

 

[marcuslyle]

Anyone who reads this, and can't see that you're connected to this "new career skills" crap needs putting down. You're parasites who risk innocent/jobless people's lives.

Well im sorry that's your point of view, as i have nothing to do with "New Career Skills". I'm just giving people the opportunity to see that these courses do work, if used in the correct way.
For the mature adult, that wants a change in career to be an electrician, what would you suggest is the route they should follow?? bare in mind they will probably be paying rent or have a mortgage, possibly kids to support. An apprentice wage, or straight 3 year college course won't be practical for them.

Instead of installing negative feedback on something i have personally have experience of working, provide some positive alternatives..
If the person is jobless then they are unlikely to have the kind of cash needed for these courses and doing an apprenticeship they got nothing to loose.

 

[EoinConway]

As you quote asks "who's this electrician"

well i am an NICEIC (D112132) electrician running a electrical contractor company now that i created in Oxfordshire, with exceptionally high standards.

Do you mind me asking what is the name of your Contracting firm? I'm sure New Career Skills would be delighted to have you as a reference you'd agree?

 

[Marvo]

Anyone who reads this, and can't see that you're connected to this "new career skills" crap needs putting down. You're parasites who risk innocent/jobless people's lives.

Please keep it civil, I ran a few checks when I first saw this and there's nothing to indicate that the person you're accusing isn't a genuine electrical contractor or has any direct interest to do with the company being discussed.

 

[Englishman]

Please keep it civil, I ran a few checks when I first saw this and there's nothing to indicate that the person you're accusing isn't a genuine electrical contractor or has any direct interest to do with the company being discussed.

Fair enough mate, and I apologise to you for putting out my opinion as an accusation. He is sounding far too much like an advertisement for me though, and I think that will be obvious to most on here.

 

[Marvo]

Yep, no offence to Marcus but we've had 'shills' on the forum in the past and I thought the same may be true here due to the lack of any negative comments whatsoever but from the info I have available I'm confident he's a bona fide electrical contractor. More than that I can't say.

 

[The Ghost]

Having worked in the industry forty years the CEO forced me to get papers. (In case anyone wonders, overseen by 2391) Many "trainers" I contacted talked utter nonsense. I found one who knew what the requirements are. Morris Services Bristol. From the get go he put me straight about what is needed. There are five proscribed routes in as electrician. These routes have been defined by IET and ESC in collaboration with NICEIC. There is no way around the fact that you have to have a level three C&G (or EAL route)with a specified amount of hours learning. Go look for it at ESC or talk with James Morris he will tell you exactly what you need (not sell) to enter the industry legally and competent. At my age the route is to become a qualified supervisor with a minimum requirement of at least two years experience gained working in the industry. The rest are pretty crap at conscientiously telling you all this, and they cheat at guided learning hours as defined by C&g. Personally in your position I would take it up with trading standards and don't stop till you get your money back. So I ended up going through 2397 and can now (I don't want to) get a gold card from JIB for instance, and no probs with joining NIC etc. But as I do mostly light commercial, still with a 2391 job done.