price work rewires

[Dave OCD]

Around 25 years ago me and an 18 year old apprentice were given 20 1bed OAP bungalows to rewire, the Council were happy for mini trunking/surface boxes but done nicely due to the mess and upheaval of chasing and making good, stressful for the old folk and most of the places were spotless. My boss at the time offered us the chance to do it on pricework, £150 for me and £75 for the lad per bungalow. So we went for it and did one properly in two days [mind you only 1ring, 1 lighting circuit, a cooker and combi boiler supply + bonding], we used MK boards back then which were proper quality in those days.
So back then we made great money and after a fortnight we were doing three a week despite old folk wanting to chat and drowning us in tea and cake.
But that was proper hard work and all cabling was neatly clipped in the lofts etc as it was all checked by a clerk of works , so any team whether two or three who do a full rewire in a day now have to be doing a hell of a long day,cutting corners or both.

 

[shanky887614]

Around 25 years ago me and an 18 year old apprentice were given 20 1bed OAP bungalows to rewire, the Council were happy for mini trunking/surface boxes but done nicely due to the mess and upheaval of chasing and making good, stressful for the old folk and most of the places were spotless. My boss at the time offered us the chance to do it on pricework, £150 for me and £75 for the lad per bungalow. So we went for it and did one properly in two days [mind you only 1ring, 1 lighting circuit, a cooker and combi boiler supply + bonding], we used MK boards back then which were proper quality in those days.
So back then we made great money and after a fortnight we were doing three a week despite old folk wanting to chat and drowning us in tea and cake.
But that was proper hard work and all cabling was neatly clipped in the lofts etc as it was all checked by a clerk of works , so any team whether two or three who do a full rewire in a day now have to be doing a hell of a long day,cutting corners or both.

people dont clip cables now and a lot dont fix trunking then use stickyback or its clipped to skirting

 

[Dave OCD]

Very true mate, and not many seem able to clip cable properly these days - or can't be bothered...:frown2:

 

[newtothis]

ha thats just off the a406 isnt it, like that every day!

Yes it is I wonder what they charge for a days graft ?

 

[Andy78]

Very true mate, and not many seem able to clip cable properly these days - or can't be bothered...:frown2:

It depends where it is. I always clip in a loft space to keep everything neat and tidy and away from strain.

 

[londonlec]

Me and a mate tried doing rewires in a day before and couldn't do it. Someone inboxed me on here looking to pay 600 per flat, chased in!!
Decent homes firms have teams of 4 or 5 blokes, mostly European. Testing is done afterwards by someone else.

 

[7029 dave]

I took pride in my surface work, clipping cables was the norm, thanx for white t&e when you could get it. ( no anymore)

 

[Dave OCD]

You can still get it but at almost double the price of grey, it's also time consuming painting all the grey clips with Tippex.:wink5:

 

[Robert Turnbull]

those rates they will be housing association rates, obviously the main contractor you working for will be charging more (but also supplying materials. sadly rates for housing associations are generally poor but they come usually with a large package of work, which is generally swings and roundabouts on jobs that are good earners and those that aren't. Sadly fully trunked flats (no extra for the trunked bit) are at the bottom of the scale and are going to be the rubbish ones.

To make money on Housing association works you need to be a polished rewire crew.

As I said before My spark and apprentice have just finished one today 4 days fully trunked/tested/making good.

I'll be snagging it in the next week, as well as the housing association and the NIC, any snags my spark will be returning as part of his price to rectify. But I doubt there will be any.

Could it have been done quicker maybe, but flooding a 1 bed flat with people is only going to end in a mess..... 2 guys taking what they need. They don't often do FULLY trunked jobs so they where not looking forward to it and knew they were not doing to make loads on it, but they will have earned a fair day rate even at 4 days.

 

[baldsparkies]

It does seem that House bashing Electricians are getting a raw deal these days.
Whilst regulations are changing to a point that's frankly becoming ridiculous, none of the people or organisations that introduce these new rules and regs ever think of financial implications to the man in the field or help in any way to promote these changes so as to make the general public aware of what there paying for and why.
Its left to the man in the field (us) to try and explain through the suspicious looks and glances why for a properly compliant job a price of £--- is required.
AM 3 is yet another thorn in the side of small companies or 1 man bands trying to make a profit.
And I make no apologise for using the word profit because we are registered electricians not a ruddy registered charity.
Sure you want to do a good job and do it correctly.
But competing with desperado’s, suspicious customers, and the out of touch with reality governing bodies in there ivory towers, who bring in there wonder courses and allow virtually any one to slap there stickers on the side of there vans, is making the trade a difficult one to gleam a decent living from these days.

 

[richy3333]

here's a teaser for y'all - see if you can guess what's going on in this snap taken 21st may 2015
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People are rushing to buy ****e electrical goods from DIY stores?

 

[northstar]

People are rushing to buy ****e electrical goods from DIY stores?

local job centre enterprise ?

 

[newtothis]

Only winding the OP up
I'm not judging anyone.

 

[malcolmsanford]

It does seem that House bashing Electricians are getting a raw deal these days.
Whilst regulations are changing to a point that's frankly becoming ridiculous, none of the people or organisations that introduce these new rules and regs ever think of financial implications to the man in the field or help in any way to promote these changes so as to make the general public aware of what there paying for and why.
Its left to the man in the field (us) to try and explain through the suspicious looks and glances why for a properly compliant job a price of £--- is required.
AM 3 is yet another thorn in the side of small companies or 1 man bands trying to make a profit.
And I make no apologise for using the word profit because we are registered electricians not a ruddy registered charity.
Sure you want to do a good job and do it correctly.
But competing with desperado’s, suspicious customers, and the out of touch with reality governing bodies in there ivory towers, who bring in there wonder courses and allow virtually any one to slap there stickers on the side of there vans, is making the trade a difficult one to gleam a decent living from these days.

No more to said Bald there, just about perfect

 

[Victor]

550 for a rewire!!!!!! Can someone tell me where they buy their materials from to be able to do a rewire at that cost?

 

[londonlec]

550 for a rewire!!!!!! Can someone tell me where they buy their materials from to be able to do a rewire at that cost?

Labour only.

 

[KennyKen]

Any self respectable sparks will find work even in dire times! Any self respecting spark would reconsider same day rewires! Glad I'm working in Australia where the worker gets looked after!

 

[shanky887614]

Any self respectable sparks will find work even in dire times! Any self respecting spark would reconsider same day rewires! Glad I'm working in Australia where the worker gets looked after!

that is the thing becoming multiskilled is useful for a one man band starting out as it helps fill in the gaps when there starting

 

[Welchyboy1]

Any self respectable sparks will find work even in dire times! Any self respecting spark would reconsider same day rewires! Glad I'm working in Australia where the worker gets looked after!

I dunno, i like to think of myself as pretty self respecting, but i would never sell my labour that cheap, i would rather work in tescos if i had no other option

 

[markythesparky]

do you think you will find a slave from the eastern side of Europe who will help you do this job in a day? I think you will end up trying to explain what you want him to do most of the day and that's what happens when you pay peanuts you get monkeys. Its just plain greed you expect 250 while you want a man to work like a dog for 50? Dream on

lol just put the mans name down as an apprentice. isnt that what everyone does these days...

only joking lad that was just an example off course i would not pay someone 50 quid...100 quid will do for the labourer and 200 quid in the sparks pockets... theres no mentioning of testing

No mention of testing??

How ar you going to energise it then?

And who is going to test your work straight afterwards and sign his name to the rush job that you've done??

Jesus!