Wago's , junction boxes and choc blocks whats best with downlighters

[mkoffulham]

HI Guys
what code would you give for on a pir for spotlights with no fire rating,
cheers

 

[bugsy]

HI Guys
what code would you give for on a pir for spotlights with no fire rating,
cheers

Whats that gotta do wiv wago's

 

[SPARTYKUS]

find the joists, chip plaster from under joists and about 1" to each side. fish cable from one joist to another, wire up lights, clip cable to underside of joists, tub of poyfiller, bit of rag to blend to match artex if required, jobs a good'un.

Hi telectrix

yeah...sometimes its the only way. doesn't feel good though.

Last one I did there was a plasterer in on the game too so I was spoilt, I cut 76mm holes in the board with a very nice "ck" holesaw (just big enough to get hand in), either side of joist. Then use an extension bar with an Armeg wood beaver (fnarr fnarr) to drill a hole through joist...unless youre lucky like i was and found the original sparks' set of holes. Then place small battens inside when sparky work is done and screw them in place with black phospate passivated screws sunk just below the surface, replacing the original piece of circle board the hoelsaw cut out..... Looks great and no quick and dirties.

Admittedly it was a well paying job ..... OH! and I had a spread following me !!!

If no spread I guess I would do it as described )

 

[Deleted member 14631]

I was wondering why you have to use a Wago Junction box with Wago connector when Wiring in Down Lighters with Wago Connectors or any BOX with WAGO connectors when wiring Down Lighters

 

[sjm]

find the joists, chip plaster from under joists and about 1" to each side. fish cable from one joist to another, wire up lights, clip cable to underside of joists, tub of poyfiller, bit of rag to blend to match artex if required, jobs a good'un.

Just as a thought wouldn't it be best to notch joist and fit a "safe plate" over cable? Then everyone's happy

 

[MarkieSparkie]

Notching joists from the underside contravenes Building Regulations Part A & P (EGBR 10.1)

 

[sjm]

Notching joists from the underside contravenes Building Regulations Part A & P (EGBR 10.1)

Thats a very good point.

 

[sparks1234]

I was wondering why you have to use a Wago Junction box with Wago connector when Wiring in Down Lighters with Wago Connectors or any BOX with WAGO connectors when wiring Down Lighters

Otherwise the connectors are not enclosed, which they should be

 

[sparks1234]

i use the 2" standard J/Bs, screw terms. H/R flex out to downlight. tried helacons, but old habits die hard.

Surely you dont use the old round junction boxes through a downlight hole

 

[nickblake]

Otherwise the connectors are not enclosed, which they should be

I agree plus you are required to keep the integrety of the double insulation of the cable and doing this does

 

[mattyevz]

I use a choc box with wago connectors so much easier and quicker. Got the tip from the forum thanks to whoever devised that!

 

[Strickers]

I always use the ashley downlighter junction box with 1mm flex down to lights there a bit expensive but save time in the end and there's plenty of room for cables.

 

[Johnny-G]

I used the Click Flow connectors for the first time the other week, they're pretty good

 

[saabuldin]

I havent used wagos before. I still use those crappy normal connector blocks. Wheres the cheapest place to get these wagos and are they any good compared to normal crappy connector blocks

 

[Phil]

they are far better and tbh most wholesalers charge the same price for them. try an independent or the electric ctr

 

[nickblake]

you should have gone to elex they had them on special offer , if they are approved for use in air craft then they are ok for me , i shall be trying out the din rail mount ones when i do a CDU relocation , hardly ever use crimps or terminal block nowadays they are just a superb invention

 

[telectrix]

has been mentioned on the forum that the ashley type screw JBs are no longer allowed for downlights. Why? the only reason i can see is that they are not fixed to a joist, but then, neither are wago boxes fixed. can't be because they're screw terms. because they are accessible. any body shed light in this?

 

[malcolmsanford]

has been mentioned on the forum that the ashley type screw JBs are no longer allowed for downlights. Why? the only reason i can see is that they are not fixed to a joist, but then, neither are wago boxes fixed. can't be because they're screw terms. because they are accessible. any body shed light in this?

Where did you see that Tel.

 

[ezzzekiel]

ashley do the lever or push fit ones also but a little expensive in my opinion.

 

[telectrix]

can't remember. it was on a post somewhere. maybe the member who said it was thinking of accessibility. i can't see anything wrong with them.