Wiring for ceiling spotlight

[Dogs Bow Locks]

I have 4 down light spotlights in my bathroom and am having problems with loose wires into the small white thing that the spotlight plugs into. The spotlights are pins as opposed to lugs if you know what I mean. The problem I have is I can't see how to secure the two whites wires into the small white thing. Is there anything else available that I can use that is easier to wire into i.e. my eyes are not they used to be.

 

[Octopus]

The white thing and white wires are a single unit.

Need to replace the unit

 

[buzzlightyear]

that white thingy is a 12volt lamp holder you be able to get them from flee bay

 

[Dogs Bow Locks]

When you say unit do you mean replace all four spotlights or are you saying get four new wires with the white thing attached?

 

[Dogs Bow Locks]

Such as this

 

[buzzlightyear]

yes .mr16.

 

[buzzlightyear]

When you say unit do you mean replace all four spotlights or are you saying get four new wires with the white thing attached?

if need changing .

 

[westward10]

If you have a Screwfix near you they sell them. GU5.3 lamp holders.

 

[Dogs Bow Locks]

GU5.3 is that the right type for the pin connectors as opposed to the lugs as in newer LED spotlights?

How do I replace the lamp holders once replaced? That is how do I get the spotlight unit out of the ceiling if that is what is required?

 

[buzzlightyear]

GU5.3 is that the right type for the pin connectors as opposed to the lugs as in newer LED spotlights?

yes .

 

[westward10]

GU5.3 is that the right type for the pin connectors as opposed to the lugs as in newer LED spotlights?

How do I replace the lamp holders once replaced? That is how do I get the spotlight unit out of the ceiling if that is what is required?

The bezel in the ceiling is probably held up with spring clips so it should pull down with a bit of effort. The spring clips however can give a nasty hit on your fingers and try not to look upward below it when you pull it down as you can get all sorts in your eyes.

 

[buzzlightyear]

The spring clips however can give a nasty hit on your fingers and try not to look upward below it when you pull it down as you can get all sorts in your eyes.

it probably like a baby alligator snapping you fingers.

 

[Dogs Bow Locks]

Sounds like a nice job! Thanks for the swift advice all round.

 

[buzzlightyear]

Sounds like a nice job! Thanks for the swift advice all round.

NORMALY LIKES .

 

[GBDamo]

Wow, must be helpful day today, we all gone soft?

 

[Wilko]

Just a cautionary word - locate the MCB for that light and turn it off before starting work. As you extract the transformer that lamp lead is attached to it may bring with it some poorly made connections...

 

[telectrix]

i'd rip the transformers out and fit GU10 LEDs.

 

[GBDamo]

i'd rip the transformers out and fit GU10 LEDs.

While hes at it those tiles, just sayin like.

 

[telectrix]

no worry about the tiles, is that ceiling cladded in wood? with them fire creating halogens covered in insulation.

 

[GeorgeCooke]

yes .mr16.

NO. MR 16 is multifacited reflector 16 eights of an inch in diameter. Most GU10 240v spotlights are in fact MR16. It is not a type of base. That base is GU5.3.

 

[westward10]

NO. MR 16 is multifacited reflector 16 eights of an inch in diameter. Most GU10 240v spotlights are in fact MR16. It is not a type of base. That base is GU5.3.

Yes I did that in #8.

 

[DPG]

George, you're obsessed with lamp Base terminology!

 

[Rpa07]

He’s like a sleeping giant - you know he’ll be along anytime when you start making noise!

 

[Rpa07]

This is the importance of vital timing , when you see this :

Close your eyes and open your mouth!

The spring clips however can give a nasty hit on your fingers and try not to look upward below it when you pull it down as you can get all sorts in your eyes.

 

[Dogs Bow Locks]

Just a cautionary word - locate the MCB for that light and turn it off before starting work. As you extract the transformer that lamp lead is attached to it may bring with it some poorly made connections...

By that I assume you mean flip the relevant switch off for the upstairs lighting circuit on my main board? I had already checked which switch to flick off. I have also had a look in the loft to see if I could change the connectors from the loft approach but they are not very accessible. Appreciate you can't see the job itself but would it be feasible to pull the existing wired connector down into the bathroom without having to remove the whole spotlight fitting? I am trying to see how I can do this job and so far it's looking tricky to the non-educated like me.

 

[Dogs Bow Locks]

no worry about the tiles, is that ceiling cladded in wood? with them fire creating halogens covered in insulation.

Ha ha. I just need to make it clear that this bathroom with it's wood clad ceiling and hideous tiles was already in the house when we moved in. The fact that we have been here 11 years just shows I am borassic and hence why I don't want to spend cash I haven't got refurbing the bathroom which in truth is what it really needs.

 

[buzzlightyear]

dogs bo&&uks some body on this forum might assist you ,just shout help!

 

[Dogs Bow Locks]

dogs bo&&uks some body on this forum might assist you ,just shout help!

Really....well if anybody on this forum is located any where near Orpington, Kent and would be willing to help out for a reasonable price it would help me big time.

 

[buzzlightyear]

Really....well if anybody on this forum is located any where near Orpington, Kent and would be willing to help out for a reasonable price it would help me big time.

you have now thrown a line ,now wait and see !

 

[Wilko]

Hi - I take the whole fitting off the ceiling to get the transformer out of the ceiling space. But you never know

 

[Dogs Bow Locks]

Job Done! Very helpful advice from all. Managed to remove the spot light units from the ceiling without breaking my fingers and replace all four connectors. All lights now working and I feel quite pleased with myself as I have all my fingers, didn't electrocute myself and now have light in the bathroom.

 

[westward10]

Top man well done.

 

[Dogs Bow Locks]

Job Done! Very helpful advice from all. Managed to remove the spot light units from the ceiling without breaking my fingers and replace all four connectors. All lights now working and I feel quite pleased with myself as I have all my fingers, didn't electrocute myself and now have light in the bathroom.

 

[Dogs Bow Locks]

Posted twice in error.

 

[GBDamo]

Job Done! Very helpful advice from all. Managed to remove the spot light units from the ceiling without breaking my fingers and replace all four connectors. All lights now working and I feel quite pleased with myself as I have all my fingers, didn't electrocute myself and now have light in the bathroom.

Once was enough, twice is bragging.

Now time so sort those tiles.....

 

[static zap]

Posted twice in error.

Worry not , it's the remaining "unwanted" forum feature.
(any signs of hesitation - I quit my browser tab-a bit drastic --fix)