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can you see it now?Why is it that every image you post does not show up? Or is it just me that can't see it? [emoji2]
the thing is though i can see them? when i do them through tapa you can see them.I can't see em either, I think he's pasting as plain text instead of pasting the link
can you see it now?
i use it on phone and it works well, im on a couple other forums and it alerts me with pop-up's when there are replies on threadsI binned tapatalk, I didn't see the point of it.
Are you self employed or with a firm!
neither at the minute!
It's a sad day when electricians can't do live tests. Anything electrical carries risks, it's the job to assess, understand and manage the risks accordingly.Fair point. Would you be happy enough carrying out a ZE on a non ip2x main switch on a mech services panel or old style db? Still a risk in my eyes
I know we're not meant to work live, but surely we're electricians and we're Trained to work with electricity! As long as you respect it and be careful! That's my view and I'll continue to do it!
This has me wondering why we all have insulated drivers etc.?:smilewinkgrin:
It's a sad day when electricians can't do live tests. Anything electrical carries risks, it's the job to assess, understand and manage the risks accordingly.
We work live regularly, part of the job. Competence, risk assessment and appropriate PPE are the 3 things we require.
can't see what all the fuss is about. next thing we know is HSE will be banning us from driving if the engine is running.
You know what would happen if someone got injured working live when it should have been made safe Tel, tickets pulled etc you know it
The HSE are actually fairly sensible, it's more the consultants, H&S managers and insurers that tend to bug me, adding extra requirements and limitations beyond what the HSE consider reasonable. E.g, the HSE haven't banned ladders, their guidance is to find alternatives wherever possible. But some sites ban them altogether, even in situations where the risk is low and exposure short.
My take: Focus on major hazards. Wire outgoing circuit live, unless SF has inadequate guarding. Bank the time saved for when you do need to take steps to make something safe, such as attaching a new set of tails to the busbar.
........, it's more the consultants, H&S managers and insurers that tend to bug me, adding extra requirements and limitations beyond what the HSE consider reasonable......
can't see what all the fuss is about. next thing we know is HSE will be banning us from driving if the engine is running.
That will be until someone is injured and the HSE are all over you like a rash asking you why you worked live
i thought the hse only really got involved if there was a death, someone suing the company or enviromental hazard rtcWe had a guy badly burnt by arc flash, they didn’t get involved. Surprising I know but it saved us a lot of hassle and paperwork.
i thought the hse only really got involved if there was a death, someone suing the company or enviromental hazard rtc
We had a guy badly burnt by arc flash, they didn’t get involved. Surprising I know but it saved us a lot of hassle and paperwork.
if you dont mind me asking, how did the two permits cause the issue?I once committed the cardinal sin of issuing 2 permits to work on the same LV system nearly blinded a jointer. so I don't take chances anymore, it was a humbling experience HSE all over me APs ticket revoked for 6 months.nearly causing someone else to be killed brings safety into perspective. been there done that got the T shirt never again.
Closed one powered pack up with one permit still valid and guys still working, not the right thing to do, it was a long long time ago but I still think about it when ever I lock off and isolate, so when people say we do it every , work live that is, it makes me see red, no I don't mind you asking at all if it makes people think the all the better as far as I'm concernedif you dont mind me asking, how did the two permits cause the issue?
im not sure i follow how it happend?
i thought the hse only really got involved if there was a death, someone suing the company or enviromental hazard rtc
i got a nice scar on my hand, when i cut it then accepted all blame in paperwork e.g accident book etc (filled it in only because boss was ****ing me off over it)
so he got an earful and a lot of emails etc, if he didnt moan etc it would of been a case of take more care next time and carry on.
I have not read all the posts but from the first page it would seem that the question being asked would apply to all 3 phase single phase Consumer units, so are you all saying we shouldn't work in them? as apart from new installations there is no means of isolating the supply from the meter is there ?
Or am I not reading the question correctly ?
it wasnt reportable under riddor, i carried on working and was back in again the next day.List of reportable incidents and injuries .......
Reportable incidents - RIDDOR - HSE
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