Within Competent Person Schemes

[andyelectric]

Hi, I would appreciate answers from those who have worked within a CPS.

From the 'Practical Solutions' thread some will have seen that I raised that it might be possible to effect change from within the schemes.

However, this is from the slightly naive vantage point of little knowledge of how their policy decisions are made.

Are there many electricians in positions of power within such schemes, or are they all managers with eyes only for greenbacks. Can policy change be effected from within.

Constructive comments from those in the know please. No rants.

 

[telectrix]

the schemes will never raise the bar. they'll lose members. it was the schemes that created the title of DI solely to boost their fat wallets.

 

[andyelectric]

the schemes will never raise the bar. they'll lose members. it was the schemes that created the title of DI solely to boost their fat wallets.

Tel, to be fair that's almost a rant as not backed up by info. What I am wondering is the make-up of these organisations. Someone must make policy decisions for them, if so can this be influenced.

 

[TJ Anderson]

The Part P schemes were, in my eyes a good thing, the only problem was the entry level was set way too low. However, overall, I think it has been financially a real boost for my business. Also, I do know some good DI's, most of which have gone on to become fully qualified electricians, the crap ones don't make it.

 

[andyelectric]

The Part P schemes were, in my eyes a good thing, the only problem was the entry level was set way too low. However, overall, I think it has been financially a real boost for my business. Also, I do know some good DI's, most of which have gone on to become fully qualified electricians, the crap ones don't make it.

It's the low entry level that needs influencing. But that is being discussed currently on another thread.

Do you have sny idea how scheme's policys could be influenced to raise the bar?

 

[TJ Anderson]

Yeah defiantly. Domestic Installer should = Fully Qualified Electrician Level (NVQ3), 2391 or current equivalent, plus a building regulation qualification, Sorted.

 

[andyelectric]

Yeah defiantly. Domestic Installer should = Fully Qualified Electrician Level (NVQ3), 2391 or current equivalent, plus a building regulation qualification, Sorted.

Not very constructive.

 

[D Skelton]

Do you have sny idea how scheme's policys could be influenced to raise the bar?

Yes. Remove the policies altogether by removing the schemes. End of.

 

[TJ Anderson]

Not very constructive.

That is constructive, I don't understand? If the the requirement was raised then everything else would fall into place.

 

[Guest77]

That is constructive, I don't understand?

Well perhaps I can help, Andy doesn't like anything which is opposite to his beliefs, so you are losing a battle trying to help him if you do not agree with his views.

 

[TJ Anderson]

Yes. Remove the policies altogether by removing the schemes. End of.

That is not going to happen IMO with the money NICEIC and chums are making. Raising the bar is more practical surely, and the schemes should get behind it, they could make money out of it training DI's to become Electricians.

 

[Guest77]

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Cheer up, here I have found you an avatar, no need to thank me for it.

 

[Anthony S]

Tel, to be fair that's almost a rant as not backed up by info. What I am wondering is the make-up of these organisations. Someone must make policy decisions for them, if so can this be influenced.

Ill tell you make up of these organisations, FREELOADERS who don't want to do a days work for a living.

 

[D Skelton]

Why the censorship of posts on here?

The secret police have been at it again!

 

[Guest125]

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Ohhhh. I like that.

 

[Guest77]

Ohhhh. I like that.

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[trev]

Good luck influencing their policy Andy, you've got more chance of knitting custard. They will laugh at you.
The schemes know best, they are the guardians of electrical safety and they'll allow nothing and no one to threaten their gift that keeps on giving.

 

[D Skelton]

That is not going to happen IMO with the money NICEIC and chums are making. Raising the bar is more practical surely, and the schemes should get behind it, they could make money out of it training DI's to become Electricians.

Punching people in the head is wrong. When is the last time you heard anyone say "We know punching people in the head is wrong, but it happens, so let's just accept it and try to regulate it so that people don't get punched in the head too hard"???

If something is wrong, it is wrong. I will not support it, nor will I try to move the goal posts, I will try to end it.

 

[andyelectric]

Ok I get the point.

I'll give up on this thread then, as clearly it's just going to revert into a 3rd thread about the same thing.

If mods can end it please do.

 

[TJ Anderson]

Ohhhh. I like that.

Or You could use this one... Only joking mate