NICEIC Certification Scheme Niceic what qualifications required to join

[glasgospark]

Looking to join niceic

I am 17th edition time served graded electrician with 2395

 

[markc123]

all you need is 17th to join the scams.

 

[glasgospark]

Do you need to be graded approved for niceic

 

[Rockingit]

Nope. The only qualification the NICEIC are really interested in is your credit rating and potential to increase theirs.

 

[glasgospark]

Ok I know how the scams are seen within this forum , but I know select require you to be approved graded to join , I thought niceic would have been the same

 

[Paul.M]

You've got your 17th + a level 3 qual..... "Give us your money."


Your in!

 

[markc123]

Not sure how the NIC define the 'domestic installer' and the 'approved contractor' because im not with them.

But like the others have said, they'd even accept a monkey if it had 17th.

Maybe the approved contractor status you must show 3phase or industrial/commercial work for the assessor?

 

[Carlosfandango]

I think niceic are now the same as select in the fact you need to be graded an "approved electrician" but don't quote me on that. I'm pretty sure they've recently changed that. I think that's to be full scope though.

 

[Tridentsystems]

NICEIC approved contractor just requires basic quals and five jobs of mixed commercial. , domestic and industrial if you have it. Job done

 

[Paul.M]

Not sure how the NIC define the 'domestic installer' and the 'approved contractor' because im not with them.

But like the others have said, they'd even accept a monkey if it had 17th.

Maybe the approved contractor status you must show 3phase or industrial/commercial work for the assessor?

Speak to each scheme face to face at an Elex show and ask what you need to be a member? Shocking.

Our industry has a lot to learn from Gas Safe scheme. Joe public knows about it. They advertise. No-one has work done in their house without a Gas Safe registered member.

Where are we going wrong????????

The scheme's look at this forum and yet do not hear what we all say.... Whats the point?????????

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

The ability to write a cheque

 

[brman]

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Speak to each scheme face to face at an Elex show and ask what you need to be a member? Shocking.

Our industry has a lot to learn from Gas Safe scheme. Joe public knows about it. They advertise. No-one has work done in their house without a Gas Safe registered member.

Where are we going wrong????????

The scheme's look at this forum and yet do not hear what we all say.... Whats the point?????????

slightly OT but I was wiring up a boiler in a shop last week.
Shop boss asked me if I was Gas safe.
Me: no.
Her: then you are not allowed to do that!
Me: yes I am, I am not touching the gas bit, just wiring it up.
Her: I don't believe you, you must be registered.
Me: I am part P with elecsa.
Her: what is part P?

So yes, she knew about gas safe and knew you needed to be with them to mess with a boiler (even if she got the detail wrong) but didn't even know there was an electrical equivelent and obviously thought that electricians were trained monkeys compared to plumbers....

:banghead:​

 

[GLENNSPARK]

all you need is 17th to join the scams.

hmm..not quite...
this helps:



one has to be well prepared for these assessments you know...

 

[Knobhead]

obviously thought that electricians were trained monkeys compared to plumbers....

Who's to say she's wrong?

Gas safe is better regulated, far more respected and the members better paid.

As for wood buchers, they can bodge anything electrical together, the sun shines out of their nether regions.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Who's to say she's wrong?

Gas safe is better regulated, far more respected and the members better paid.

As for wood buchers, they can bodge anything electrical together, the sun shines out of their nether regions.

depends what `electricians` were refering to though doesn`t it
i mean theres plenty who come through these doors for instance..
so if this is the public perception when theres many around calling/refering to themselves as electricians who cant even grasp the basics and when they open their mouths in here out spews the most base crap....

 

[Knobhead]

Don’t get at or blame me. You lot let the scams take over.

Until I retired as an industrial maintenance engineer and got involved with various forums I’d had nothing to do with registration bodies. They carried no weight in my field, you were employed based on your indentures and qualifications.

To say I was shocked when I joined the forums would be an understatement.

 

[thomas-1981]

Hi glasgospark, I too have been looking at joining a scheme. Up here the Domestic Installer doesn't apply so you would need to apply for the Approved Contractor Scheme. I'm sure you need need 2391 to join might be wrong. I've applied to SELECT, your right you need to be approved to join but it's only a 1 day assessment which I done earlier this year. I just find SELECT more approachable.

 

[sparks1234]

The NICEIC seems to be the scheme which has the most clout within councils, some companies even think the regs are written by them, If you go onto the NICEIC site there is a list of their requirements which includes the qualifications and the insurances etc that you are to hold, I personally would not entertain going for the domestic as the approved contractor is very reasonably priced, particularly against the ECA whos prices are determined by your turnover

 

[glasgospark]

Hi glasgospark, I too have been looking at joining a scheme. Up here the Domestic Installer doesn't apply so you would need to apply for the Approved Contractor Scheme. I'm sure you need need 2391 to join might be wrong. I've applied to SELECT, your right you need to be approved to join but it's only a 1 day assessment which I done earlier this year. I just find SELECT more approachable.

hi thomas , started my application for the niceic today paid the first fee and will have assessment within 4 weeks , they seem pretty decent to deal with , i actually corresponded with them about a year ago and they went out there way a considerable amount to help me , any advice on assessment anyone ????

 

[boffy35]

Hi,

NICEIC and ELECSA as they are now part of the same group. Both have announced that from April this year that you need inspection qualifications (2391 or 2394 + 2395)to join and that existing members that do not have that level of qualification, need to gain them in the next two years.

All the info you need is here

http://www.niceic.com/Uploads/File2160.pdf

Cheers

Mark

 

[glasgospark]

do the require 2395&2394 ???

Hi,

NICEIC and ELECSA as they are now part of the same group. Both have announced that from April this year that you need inspection qualifications (2391 or 2394 + 2395)to join and that existing members that do not have that level of qualification, need to gain them in the next two years.

All the info you need is here

http://www.niceic.com/Uploads/File2160.pdf

Cheers

Mark

 

[brman]

Hi,

NICEIC and ELECSA as they are now part of the same group. Both have announced that from April this year that you need inspection qualifications (2391 or 2394 + 2395)to join and that existing members that do not have that level of qualification, need to gain them in the next two years.

All the info you need is here

http://www.niceic.com/Uploads/File2160.pdf

Cheers

Mark

Where did the bit in bold come from?

The document you linked to (and all other info I have seen) says that if you are an existing QS (or have been in the last 2 years) with any scheme then all you need is 17th Edition to be accepted.

All along they have said that the new requirements will not be applied to existing QSs.

 

[Aindowsimon]

GCE in maths and art

 

[richy3333]

DI's dont exist in Scotland - assuming you are working here. Only Approved Contractor status.
The first meeting will be a pre assessment to assess your level/skills and documentation by interview and tell you what to expect at your assessment. Expect the assessment proper to last all day. NICEIC correspondence should explain everything to you.

Good luck

 

[glasgospark]

DI's dont exist in Scotland - assuming you are working here. Only Approved Contractor status.
The first meeting will be a pre assessment to assess your level/skills and documentation by interview and tell you what to expect at your assessment. Expect the assessment proper to last all day. NICEIC correspondence should explain everything to you.

Good luck

so for qualifications is being fully qualified 17th edition with 2395 substantial ??

 

[richy3333]

I think 17th Ed and 2391 or equivalent used to be the requirements. The NIC website used to list what was needed

 

[Engineer54]

Originally Posted by boffy35 Hi,

NICEIC and ELECSA as they are now part of the same group. Both have announced that from April this year that you need inspection qualifications (2391 or 2394 + 2395)to join and that existing members that do not have that level of qualification, need to gain them in the next two years.

All the info you need is here

http://www.niceic.com/Uploads/File2160.pdf

Cheers

Mark

They will soon find way's around that, when it starts hitting their annual profits and growth targets!! lol!!

Like Tony, in my time working in the UK i'd never heard of all these parasitic bodies until coming on to the various forums. So as far as i can see, you only have yourselves to blame for the demise of a once proud UK electrical industry. You have opened the floodgates to every Tom Dick and Harry, and are now seeing the results and paying the price of that ''Don't Care a Less'' attitude!!

 

[MDJ]

Not sure how the NIC define the 'domestic installer' and the 'approved contractor' because im not with them.

But like the others have said, they'd even accept a monkey if it had 17th.

Maybe the approved contractor status you must show 3phase or industrial/commercial work for the assessor?

I don't agree with that, you won't get approved status if your just 17th edition qualified, they are much tougher than the domestic installer scheme, trust me, you try and get approved status with just that qualification, I don't care what anyone here thinks I know, I have been a QS at approved level for donkey's years and it can be quite tough to get on the rung

 

[richy3333]

I don't agree with that, you won't get approved status if your just 17th edition qualified, they are much tougher than the domestic installer scheme, trust me, you try and get approved status with just that qualification, I don't care what anyone here thinks I know, I have been a QS at approved level for donkey's years and it can be quite tough to get on the rung

Agreed. I sort of enjoy my annual grilling now, must be a masochist!

 

[thomas-1981]

Good luck with your assessment and let us know how you get on.