Aico vs FireAngel with app notifications

[chriso]

Hi

I'm having a full house rewire. I want to have mains smoke alarms, heat alarms, carbon alarm next to boiler, internet connectivity to notify an app via gateway and a wall controller to test/silence.

Based on this I've priced up a FireAngel system (just on components) at £500. I've done a like for like on the spreadsheet looking at Aico and it comes out at £900.

The electricians that have come out have all recommended Aico. The thing is each alarm requires a separate rf module, which adds £330 to the price. It's a shame they aren't built in, even if the alarm was slightly more expensive.

Anyone has experience of both?

If I went with wired Aico, using the RF module is required to communicate with Ei1000G SmartLINK Gateway, which means no communication wire between them. I can't see which app you would get alerts on, there are different aico apps on the store by different developers.

p.s I like Google Nest but they've shot themselves in the foot not doing a heat alarm

Thanks

 

[westward10]

I'm not involved with this sort of thing but from what I have seen on this forum there will almost certainly be a unanimous choice for Aico.

 

[brianmoooore]

I'm not involved with this sort of thing but from what I have seen on this forum there will almost certainly be a unanimous choice for Aico.

I'll steal the above and post it as my own. Absolutely no contest. Toys versus professional equipment.

 

[pc1966]

Google Nest is not approved in Scotland for interlinked alarms due to the dependency on a 3rd party server.

All the feedback I have heard of gives Aico the top slot for something that actually works and meets the 10 year expectation. My own (very limited) experience was FireAngel sealed units failing with low battery after 2-3 years.

 

[chriso]

Google Nest is not approved in Scotland for interlinked alarms due to the dependency on a 3rd party server.

"Please note that the Nest Protect System will not meet the standard. This is because they do not meet the requirements for a heat alarm under the relevant British Standard. British Standard (BS 5839-6:2019) states that only heat alarms should be installed in kitchens."

Fire and smoke alarms: changes to the law

The law on fire alarms has changed which means all Scottish homes will need to have interlinked alarms. Guidance on what you need to know.

www.gov.scot

So the issue is no heat alarm, not the way they communicate between them.

 

[chriso]

Main things I'm wondering with Aico, aside from the extra £400, is notifications in an app when you are away from home. Anyone experience of that?

"Please note that the Nest Protect System will not meet the standard. This is because they do not meet the requirements for a heat alarm under the relevant British Standard. British Standard (BS 5839-6:2019) states that only heat alarms should be installed in kitchens."

Fire and smoke alarms: changes to the law

The law on fire alarms has changed which means all Scottish homes will need to have interlinked alarms. Guidance on what you need to know.

www.gov.scot

So the issue is no heat alarm, not the way they communicate between them.

Ah I see, they do use wifi between them, not RF, double whammy Google

Nest Fire System And Scottish Legislation, Why You Should Avoid It

Smoke alarms are mandatory in all private premises in Scotland and the rest of the UK, and modern technology developments are bringing to the market new smart

fireguardplus.co.uk

 

[pc1966]

So the issue is no heat alarm, not the way they communicate between them.

More than that and covered here:

Nest Fire System And Scottish Legislation, Why You Should Avoid It

Smoke alarms are mandatory in all private premises in Scotland and the rest of the UK, and modern technology developments are bringing to the market new smart

fireguardplus.co.uk

• Nest Fire Alarms Are Wi-Fi Interlinked
• Nest Fire Alarms Do Not Have Tamper-proof batteries
• Nest Fire Alarms Do Not Detect Heat
• Nest Fire Alarms Detect Smoke When It's Not Required

The WiFi linking is very important: if you have an electrical fault that starts a fire and takes out the supply to your router, etc, you have lest the interlinked benefit, etc.

 

[MJPD29]

Do not use fireangel. You may as well throw your money away, absolutley terrible products

 

[littlespark]

Unanimous.

Out of curiosity, £900 just for aico materials? How many detectors is that?
Granted, I don’t know how much the hub thing is.

You say “each alarm requires an rf module”
Do they? If they’re hard wired?
Is this so the app knows which detector has gone off?

 

[cliffed]

Do not use fireangel. You may as well throw your money away, absolutley terrible products

Totally agree having problems with 12 detectors all RF linked main/ battery… they keep alarming whenever… also the pairing set up …so fiddly when all have been installed