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Maybe the armoured cable coming out of the carpet 9-12 inches from the wall in the 6 month old new build I was quoting at the other day was to avoid this problem! :rolleyes:

Anyone would think that new builds were more about printing money than actually creating safe secure homes that will last 100 years!
 
Best theyll do to "repair" it is wrap insulating tape around it. Make sure they use the right colour. ;)

Its not SWA as others have said, its concentric. The outer core is the neutral/earth.. the live is in the middle.



"Huntygowk" for the uneducated, means "April Fools"
 
It's all a bit depressing really. You buy a house thinking 'there won't be any problems, it's new! Things like electrics will be fine' then you realise that everyone's been in it to get their job done as fast as possible to move on to the next house, and you're left with the bad smell.I don't know electrics, as most people don't, so how on earth are you meant to spot stuff like this?

Thanks littlespark, didn't even know what a concentric cable was, now I do!

Anyways, there will be someone coming out to inspect and 'fix' and fully expect tape to be used. I'm just glad I didn't have a live cable on show as was paranoid my kids or me would end up sticking a fork in it or something now we know it's there!

Aye huntygowk does indeed mean 'April Fools'. Could maybe be applied to these electrics.

Many thanks to everyone who's taken the time to read my post and reply, all the advice was just what I was looking for.

I'll post a pic of the 'fix' when it's done.
 
I would like to point out somewhere about someone having pride in there work.

Best I can come up with is,
the flooring looks neat and square.
pity about the mouse hole below the cut-out though.
 
Maybe the armoured cable coming out of the carpet 9-12 inches from the wall in the 6 month old new build I was quoting at the other day was to avoid this problem! :rolleyes:

Anyone would think that new builds were more about printing money than actually creating safe secure homes that will last 100 years!
100 years My Arse. that way of thinking went out in the 60's. when they started with Satan's spawn roof trusses.
 
The housebuilder wasn't P*rs*mm*n was it?

I'd been in a new build since 2007.... when i got round to changing switches, adding sockets etc, i found loose cables, no earth sleeving, and spurred sockets where there was no need to be.
 
Wee update. They've been out and put in a temp fix (no surprises, tape!) however they are coming out to replace the cable as well.
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What did they say about it?

It was caused by a contractor who, being responsible, just ignored it.
It's baffling why some folk couldn't care less, no matter how serious.
 
They said that it could have been their contractor that installed the cable initially, or the developer who pulled the first cable through, or the electrical company I got to install garage electrics who pulled another cable through.no way of knowing.

You'd have thought if it was there from the start either developer or the other company would have noticed and said something.
 
Yeh? No they wouldn't.... In and out as quickly as possible.
Someone maybe said something to their gaffer, or site foreman and its just got forgotten about conveniently.
That just sums up the issue. Standards are crap.....and certainly aren't improving.
 
Price work standards are crap as everyone says "not my job". When the builders/developers are also selling the properties, there is no incentive to maintain high standards as long as the properties are still selling. At least when the builder is constructing a property for a client then the client will (or should) have someone to oversee the build who is on their side and ensure standards are maintained.
 
IMHO... it's more to do with OCS (Official Certificate Syndrome)... it's a common ailment in the modern world whereby someone believes that because they have an EIC that says that the installation is safe to be brought into service... it actually is. They don't realise that the EIC is just a piece of paper that is only really useful in a court of law should some sort of legal case be brought. It's mildly useful for other purposes, in that it gives an indication that there has been some inspection and testing... but how far you rely on this depends on who has signed it off and whether you trust them as an inspector.

It's similar to the modern world ailment of HADS (Having A Degree Syndrome)... whereby youngsters believe that if they go to a 'university' and get a degree... they have a right to a highly paid job. The reality of course is that having a degree per se means nothing... you have to look at the subject and the university involved.
 

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