Garden distribution board

[Silly Sausage]

I had to google it
Its basically a retaining wall
Landscape gardening is definitely not my strong point!

You're havin' a larf ainchya?

 

[ncpitts]

Why does the CU need to be in the middle of the garden in the first place? What is preventing it being installed in the nearest building and cables running from there to whatever it is feeding?

Nearest building 250m away and he thinks a cabinet would look ugly, and that is my problem

 

[Silly Sausage]

250m, have you done any calcs yet!

 

[not clever]

It is deception in the world of land scaping
Ha-ha - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I have a customer (i do their eicr) who has a small ha-ha in their garden, with a domestic meter box sunk in the wall, that contains a small memshield cu for the garden and lake (fishing pond) lighting.

 

[Silly Sausage]

They're little buggers them hahas, approach them from the wrong direction with a full pint in your hand and they can catch you out.

 

[edexlab]

You're havin' a larf ainchya?

I thought it was a typo at first but sitting here bored thought well you never know! Lol

 

[Engineer54]

Nearest building 250m away and he thinks a cabinet would look ugly, and that is my problem

And you still think this guy is intelligent??:stooge_curly:

So what's this garden/field CU supplying and who is digging the 60cm x 250+ metre trench, as well as all the other branch circuit cable trenches??

 

[Knobhead]

There’s away around everything if you just look.

Replace the links with fuses and the jobs good to go.

 

[Pete999]

Tell him it's a stupid idea, and this "intelligent man" should know better, oh sorry intelligence and common sense aren't the same thing are they. His suggestion is one of the most idiotic things I have heard CU flush with the ground.

 

[ncpitts]

Tell him it's a stupid idea, and this "intelligent man" should know better, oh sorry intelligence and common sense aren't the same thing are they. His suggestion is one of the most idiotic things I have heard CU flush with the ground.

So apart from insulting my customer, have you anything constructive or scientific to either help to accomplish this task or an alternative to what he wants ?

 

[Pete999]

No not really, you have to admit though it is a daft idea, perhaps what I was really trying to say was explkain to him/her the futility of trying to do what he is asking for, the inherent dangers etc.

 

[ncpitts]

Thanks to all l who have contributed an idea to either do this or have given a good reason why not.
To be clear there are ducts dug into the ground and the board has next to nothing in load terms. All the calcs have been done. I think it's not a good idea but thought I would get some other opinions.
For those who didn't posting insults or crap about plastic bags etc. I would like to say that if you have nothing constructive to say then please say nothing.
Thanks again

 

[Octopus]

Thanks to all l who have contributed an idea to either do this or have given a good reason why not.
To be clear there are ducts dug into the ground and the board has next to nothing in load terms. All the calcs have been done. I think it's not a good idea but thought I would get some other opinions.
For those who didn't posting insults or crap about plastic bags etc. I would like to say that if you have nothing constructive to say then please say nothing.
Thanks again

Muppet,

Why didn't you include the bulk of this post in the original - if you had, you may well have got more sensible posts earlier on.

I'll leave now to let you dig a hole for the CU and another for yourself.....

 

[Engineer54]

So you say the ducts, 250 + metres of them to this CU position have already been installed and only now are you questioning the totally daft idea of sinking a CU flush into the ground!! I'm outa here!!

 

[Guest77]

I would say this needs to be in the DIY section, but after reading the OP again and the reply from the Muppet I would recommend it is removed from public viewing just incase someone else thinks it is a good idea, Gasp!!

 

[Rockingit]

Sorry boys, I think you're all being a little too set in your ways with this one. It's all in a days work for an event sparks, eh Dave?!

If loading is light, so heat unlikely to be much of an issue, then there are bound to be lots of products designed for marine environments and so on that will do just this job - it's just a matter of finding them. And yes, you probably could fit a lidded IP66 DIN rail box (to house the CPD) inside another much larger one which had the entry glands internally resin-ed off, etc etc.

Good grief, there's thousands upon thousands of underground joints and junctions, BT wiring centres etc etc in the UK - do you think they all rely on jokes about carrier bags??!!

The person who says it can't be done is normally followed by the one who just did it - and they are the person that gets remembered.

 

[ncpitts]

Sorry boys, I think you're all being a little too set in your ways with this one. It's all in a days work for an event sparks, eh Dave?!

If loading is light, so heat unlikely to be much of an issue, then there are bound to be lots of products designed for marine environments and so on that will do just this job - it's just a matter of finding them. And yes, you probably could fit a lidded IP66 DIN rail box (to house the CPD) inside another much larger one which had the entry glands internally resin-ed off, etc etc.

Good grief, there's thousands upon thousands of underground joints and junctions, BT wiring centres etc etc in the UK - do you think they all rely on jokes about carrier bags??!!

The person who says it can't be done is normally followed by the one who just did it - and they are the person that gets remembered.

Rockingit, Thanks buddy , outstanding at least it gives me a way forward
Took 56 posts but found the nugget eventually

 

[ncpitts]

Yep, he sounds like a very intelligent man indeed!! .....NOT!!

So how would you seal the cable entries into the outer and inner boxes and exactly how long do you expect them to be water tight?? Then how are you going to overcome condensation, which is almost a certainty with the box(es) being sunk into the ground??

Watertight we can do , good grief we put lights in swimming pools, selv admittedly but still watertight.
Condensation is another problem entirely

 

[ncpitts]

Muppet,

Why didn't you include the bulk of this post in the original - if you had, you may well have got more sensible posts earlier on.

I'll leave now to let you dig a hole for the CU and another for yourself.....

Muppet - really are we down to that ?
Installation method and load are not the problem.
How to do this is, this is not why the posts were not sensible, its an idea that is out of the box ,that is why we got that type of reply
back to an earlier one if you don't have anything constructive to contribute then contribute nothing.
however thanks for at least having a look

 

[Knobhead]

Thanks to all l who have contributed an idea to either do this or have given a good reason why not.
To be clear there are ducts dug into the ground and the board has next to nothing in load terms. All the calcs have been done. I think it's not a good idea but thought I would get some other opinions.
For those who didn't posting insults or crap about plastic bags etc. I would like to say that if you have nothing constructive to say then please say nothing.
Thanks again