Generator temp supply

[Arsenal1886]

Hi there,

new to the forum I have a querie - I am installing a 16a commando socket onto the side of a DB going through a change over switch. 1 side of the switch being mains fed and the other from my commando socket.

however I have an issue, the commando socket with be fed from a generator and will therefor have a socket on the side for me to plug in to.

so here's my issue how do I get around the fact I am going to need to run a cable with both ends being male and the potential if the wrong person was to unplug this could potentially get a belt.

i would like to know if anyone else has had and over come this issue in the past and how and what I could do to get around this?

many thanks

 

[Thefailsafe2012]

Hardwire the Db end instead?

 

[Tiny Spark]

You cant, simple as that really.
As thefailsafe said hardwire the DB side.

 

[nickblake]

The answer is you don't ,generators should be hard wired into a change over switch and also be fused down so you don't overload the cabling , using a few contactors you can make it automatic so when the power fails the contactor drops out and automatically changes over to the generator supply

 

[Thefailsafe2012]

I think you can get get a commando appliance inlet, but still I'd probably just hard wire it, how much longer will it take rather than faffing about with plugs and sockets and then no one can pull it out

 

[Flanders]

You will need a change over switch and you can get a surface mount plug they are normaly used for caravans, butty wagons and boats

 

[jeremy]

A lot of the cabinets that we make need a back up supply. We fit an appliance inlet plug below the cu, through a c/o switch. Kraus and naimer make a din rail mounted one, KH80T902 off the top of my head.

 

[mechelec]

You should have a surface mounted plug on the genny side of the changeover switch. Think of your installation as an appliance that you are plugging in. No worries about live plugs then and you just need a standard arrangement lead ie plug to go in generator and socket end for your fixed plug. The above takes no account of your earthing but that is another question.

 

[amlu]

stick it in a lockable cabinet. print a check list of stuff to do before opening it. give keys to someone instructed what to do.

 

[Lucien Nunes]

That's often a way to deal with potential hazards but it doesn't apply in this case - the OP was going to put a socket and plug the wrong way round, if instead he puts them the right way round there's no hazard to guard against

 

[Arsenal1886]

Thanks guys. The socket inlet idea is what is best suited to this particular install I didn't know what they were called. Hard wiring would obviously be the best solution but is not a possible solution in this case.
Thanks for your help.

 

[Lucien Nunes]

Appliance inlet, not socket inlet. It's not a socket!

 

[Guest111]

this is an appliance inlet

 

[Guest111]

Another thing is what type of genny are you using? the small ones that are used on site for powering tools etc do not have a stable output and are no good for electronics eg computers,tv's etc also they are not usually big enough for running anything decent.

 

[Arsenal1886]

Appliance inlet sorry.

There's not a lot on it mate couple of lights and a socket nothing dependant or too critical.