New single floor office advice please

[Nick Harvey]

Customer will be hiring a qualified sparks, but can anyone give me guidance as to how a single floor open plan office should be wired in terms of circuits?
There will be 3 islands of 8 desks and 3 of 3 desks, each desk served by an under-desk 4/5-way with a Weiland-to-13a lead. 13a sockets will be in 100mm trunking round perimeter, and each desk island hits a wall. How many of the desk supplies can be on a single 30a ring? If the total max load does exceed 30A can they theoretically be on the one ring? Would it be prudent to split into more than one ring? Advice gratefully received! Thanks

 

[telectrix]

assuming computers on each desk, you are limited by cumulative leakage, and should be installing hi-integrity earthing.

 

[buzzlightyear]

welcome ,its down to the spark to design it for the customer ..

 

[Deleted member 26818]

I would consider running Radials and use 16A commando plugs and sockets to connect the islands.

 

[Pete999]

assuming computers on each desk, you are limited by cumulative leakage, and should be installing hi-integrity earthing.

Wouldn't install a RFC, a radial for each Work Station would be my choice, with HI earthing as well. Regulation 543.7.2.201 refers, OSG 7.5.3

 

[buzzlightyear]

I would consider running 16 commandos to the plugs and sockets and connect the islands.

LOL.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

LOL.

Nutter.

 

[buzzlightyear]

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[Deleted member 26818]

Floor sockets only really work with raised floors.
If there are raised floors, then you could consider Electrack.

 

[Nick Harvey]

Floor sockets only really work with raised floors.
If there are raised floors, then you could consider Electrack.

Nope - old building. Conventional timber floors

 

[westward10]

What is the overall floor area.

 

[buzzlightyear]

What is the overall floor area

carpet .

 

[Nick Harvey]

What is the overall floor area.

Very roughly 200 sq m

 

[Nick Harvey]

carpet .

They are high end West London architects - they don't DO carpet!!

 

[Pete999]

carpet .

What fitted or throw rugs?

 

[Pete999]

They are high end West London architects - they don't DO carpet!!

If they are Artichokes they should be able to design an installation, or know someone who can, not a job you can design on the run I should imagine, needs a lot of thinking about, prior to getting the tools out.

 

[GMES]

The floor might be Larva, only some members will get that.

 

[Barnaby Stedman]

in case you are not understanding here - nick harvey, there are limits to the floor space that an A1 ring final circuit can cover - however, I would suggest running two radials - down each side of the office in 4mm cable - with a 32a supply to both.

 

[Pete999]

The floor might be Larva, only some members will get that.

Go on I'll come clean, Larva???????????????

 

[GMES]

If they are Artichokes they should be able to design an installation, or know someone who can, not a job you can design on the run I should imagine, needs a lot of thinking about, prior to getting the tools out.

 

[GMES]

Go on I'll come clean, Larva???????????????

It's a daft craze that's been sweeping the nation, where 2 people play the prank on each other and randomly shout the floor is larva so the other as to get off the floor by any means possible.
As an example they're in a supermarket when one shouts the floor is larva and the other dives onto a shelf sending the contents all over the place.
Some are funny some are reckless.
If you Google the floor is larva it should bring up a few videos.

 

[westward10]

What type of wiring system is going within the trunking.

 

[Barnaby Stedman]

if you want to learn about high integrity earthing - https://www.electriciansforums.co.uk/attachments/high-integrity-earthing-pdf.8135/

 

[telectrix]

They are high end West London architects - they don't DO carpet!!

seen them before. fur cots and no knickers.

 

[streamer]

Customer will be hiring a qualified sparks, but can anyone give me guidance as to how a single floor open plan office should be wired in terms of circuits?

If you are neither the customer or the electrician, where do you fit in in this set up?

 

[Pete999]

if you want to learn about high integrity earthing - https://www.electriciansforums.co.uk/attachments/high-integrity-earthing-pdf.8135/

What they are not telling you on that ODF is that for example the HI CPCs must be connected into different or separate terminals in the DB/CU as per the reg/OSG numbers I quoted.

 

[Toneyz]

What is a ODF?
I remember doing this on a few office installations and you have a sticker (yes another one) you write the circuit No.(s) on it.

 

[Pete999]

What is a ODF?
I remember doing this on a few office installations and you have a sticker (yes another one) you write the circuit No.(s) on it.

PDF sorry

 

[Toneyz]

PDF sorry

There is a bad spelling button for that.

 

[Pete999]

It's a daft craze that's been sweeping the nation, where 2 people play the prank on each other and randomly shout the floor is larva so the other as to get off the floor by any means possible.
As an example they're in a supermarket when one shouts the floor is larva and the other dives onto a shelf sending the contents all over the place.
Some are funny some are reckless.
If you Google the floor is larva it should bring up a few videos.

Childish Prank