Ring main fault

[Boaky]

Need help A property I recently done an EICR on has a fault on the downstairs ring main.
The fault is an open circuit on the r1. To shorten the story I managed to believe the fault is under the floor
and may have possible joint boxes. But the client has sold the property and didn't want to spend
money. So all I done was derated the MCB and changed it RCBO. Is this classed as okay or does anyone have a recommendation to what I should of done

 

[pepparz]

i wouldn't have started the fault finding job unless asked to, just reported it.

 

[telectrix]

for the cost of what you have done, you could have found the fault. always treat the disease, not the symptoms.

 

[Boaky]

I was asked to do all the code 2 and code 1 defects
What coding should I now use

 

[D Skelton]

If you don't know the answer to that you shouldn't be carrying out EICRs.

 

[telectrix]

if you've been asked to rectify code C1 and code C2 faults, then you should rectify, not bodge. end of.

 

[Boaky]

does anyone one know what code it is and I have left the job in safer comdition
if no one can answer my question politely then don't bother

 

[D Skelton]

does anyone one know what code it is and I have left the job in safer comdition
if no one can answer my question politely then don't bother

YOU are the inspector! YOU should know what code it is!

 

[telectrix]

could say a C3 as it requires improvement. as for polite. now bog off.

 

[Boaky]

I don't know every code out there
do you Skelton. A lot of regs seem open to interpretation

 

[DPG]

does anyone one know what code it is and I have left the job in safer comdition
if no one can answer my question politely then don't bother

Your question originally was 'or does anyone have a recommendation to what I should of done', which Tel has answered in post #6. What's wrong with you?

 

[topquark]

Can you be certain the circuit is 2.5mm everywhere? Unlikely, given what you've said about the probable jb under the floor, so derating to 20A isn't an option.

 

[D Skelton]

I don't know every code out there
do you Skelton

I'd have a damn good idea!

C1 = Dangerous (someone could die right now)
C2 = Potentially dangerous (potentially could kill someone at some point in the future)
C3 = Improvement recommended (could do with a bit of improvement)

 

[Boaky]

Thanks telectrix I put it down as a c3
i really didn't want to start lifting carpets and moving furniture

 

[telectrix]

i could interpret BS7671 into swahili, but the meaning's the same. the codes are quite clear. imminent danger - potential danger - requires improvement.

 

[Boaky]

Skelton have u ever been on the tools

 

[DPG]

Boaky, your attitude ain't going to get you anywhere mate. Calm down a bit. Daz

 

[D Skelton]

Skelton have u ever been on the tools

Haha, no, I've never picked up a screwdriver... Ever! Why do you ask? lol

 

[Boaky]

Is it potentially dangerous
this IS own to interpretation

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U sound like you never had these problems before except in a classroom

 

[telectrix]

Skelton have u ever been on the tools

boaky, the man has forgotten more than you're likely to learn in a lifetime. in can see his 88mm tank gun traversing in your direction.

 

[D Skelton]

Is it potentially dangerous
this IS open to interpretation

Yes, and as a competent inspector you should be able to make that call confidently and safe in the knowledge that it is backed by a firm and fundamental understanding of the regulations.

If you'd have come on here saying something like "So today I found such and such whilst doing a periodic inspection, I gave it a code 2 because of this, this and this. Would you guys concur with my decision?" then my response to you would have been entirely different.

 

[pepparz]

I some times like to watch emmerdale, but this forum is much more entertaining.

 

[Boaky]

Thanks for all the advice
you live and learn. Or in my case just live

 

[telectrix]

nope. you have learnt from this thread already. life is a learning curve with a load of spikes on the way. some spikes boost your brain, and some spike your arse.

 

[Octopus]

Open circuit on the live on a RFC - C2 deffo.

 

[jimjimjim]

Open circuit on the live on a RFC - C2 deffo.

Agreed.

And god damn it OP, i opened this post because i thought you had a fault on a Ring Main not a Ring Final Circuit.

Jim

 

[guest119]

The open circuit you have left has a open end, loose and free to possibly touch something.

Boydy

 

[Guest111]

Just remember one thing,you touched it last so if it goes pear shaped and ends in a court case it,s you in the dock! I,he personally been involved in one where it did go badly wrong,not my fault I hasten to add,but when the powers that be come looking they bear a striking similarity to a certain well known German division during the war.

 

[jaypp]

did you remove/cut the 'broken' legs and make note? also, floor area.