I was doing an extention 'tuther week and the kitchen fitter pulled out a worx 240v multi tool.

I thought "hmmm crap tool, could be a cowboy"
I was right, he cut an 1.5" thick worktop down with it and then disappeared, the job was supposed to be complete the tuesday before Christmas..... they haven't been back yet.



Although decent tools doesn't mean decent workman, cheap tools tends to imply the opposite! You can call it tool snobbery but to be honest its more from site experience than anything!

Good point made there , but the trouble is do you get the quality you expect from the brand names that you expect just from the names.Some (hand tool) companies have been taken over so many times and their products are a shadow of their former self.

It's good to have forums were we can compare gear by those that actually use it before we part with our hard earned cash.
 
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You could try one of these if you are worried about battery life


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The ryobi gear seems legit. I have used their impact driver and it functioned near enough the same as my 18v bosch impact driver. I like bosch and have an sds, combi and impact driver and find them highly reliable. My mate uses ryobi and has no qualms with it. GO FOR IT and dont listen to these apes talking about first impressions. I have never had a tool inspection from a customer. STAY AWAY FROM MIKITA ITS RUBBISH AND DESIGNED FOR CARPENTERS!
 
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.... STAY AWAY FROM MIKITA ITS RUBBISH AND DESIGNED FOR CARPENTERS!

I'd agree with that. If you buy power tools labelled 'MIKITA', it's certainly a rip-off copy. :biggrin:

I strongly recommend Makita myself.
 
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I shall re-phrase that

Makita is RUBBISH and DESIGNED FOR CARPENTERS AND THE SEVERELY STUPID CONSUMERS
 
I shall re-phrase that

Makita is RUBBISH and DESIGNED FOR CARPENTERS AND THE SEVERELY STUPID CONSUMERS
i think we have one of the idiots here that bought the diy version.

if you go for the cheapest in screwfix its not going to be a good drill.
 
I know quality when I see it and that's why I have Bosch professional. On site all you see is makita because it's cheap and looks alright. When in fact the batteries are terrible and only last 6 months. They perform poorly in the cold. There not at all robust and loose their guts within a year. They don't even supply a carry case. Their only silver lining is their dab radio which is ace. Which is why the vast majority of my work mates have moved to the dark side and bought Bosch. Just an opinion and a deep felt oppressed hate and ruined dreams
 
I know quality when I see it and that's why I have Bosch professional. On site all you see is makita because it's cheap and looks alright. When in fact the batteries are terrible and only last 6 months. They perform poorly in the cold. There not at all robust and loose their guts within a year. They don't even supply a carry case. Their only silver lining is their dab radio which is ace. Which is why the vast majority of my work mates have moved to the dark side and bought Bosch. Just an opinion and a deep felt oppressed hate and ruined dreams
no case? what rock do you live under?

the makita batteries dont last 6months i have had the same batteries for 2 years and as good as gold.

your just bitter because you couldn't afford Milwaukee and to get the better tools.

the reason some makita drills look cheap is because they are budget tools for diy'ers the high end that trades should use are not expensive (£299 for drill+impact driver and 2 batteries)

additional batteries from £50 and new body only drills/impact drivers from 75 and other body only tools from 100 or so

all my kit uses the same batteries and ive never had any problems
 
no case? what rock do you live under?

the makita batteries dont last 6months i have had the same batteries for 2 years and as good as gold.

your just bitter because you couldn't afford Milwaukee and to get the better tools.

the reason some makita drills look cheap is because they are budget tools for diy'ers the high end that trades should use are not expensive (£299 for drill+impact driver and 2 batteries)

additional batteries from £50 and new body only drills/impact drivers from 75 and other body only tools from 100 or so

all my kit uses the same batteries and ive never had any problems

Really?

I have a Milwaukee core drill worth £600 and it's mint but their cordless stuff is poor aswell. Typical yank design. My mates sds battery would last about 80 holes in thermalite and then die. Their chargers are over designed and sometimes choose not too charge the battery and just scream away instead. I must say that I have heard countless people on site moaning about their makita stuff. Just my outlook on the subject
 
Hello all,

Due to the fact I only work as a subbie for wages (as a mate) I need to purchase my own hand tools, power tools and so on from my wages.

I've noticed the Ryobi range of One+ Li-Ions and they do seem to have good reviews on the sites that sell them.

.

Currently only have my hand tools and a DeWalt Combi drill. Made the mistake of ordering a Bosch SDS-Quick from Amazon in their sale. :frown:

Just wondering if anyone here has used them, or even owns them and thoughts on whether they would be a good starting point for a proper set of power tools!

They are proper power tools, used them for year and not one problem. Sold them on here just before xmas, and although the tools had outlasted the batteries, they were as good as new, and some one got a real bargain.
 
Thanks for the feedback all. Probably just have to risk it and go for the Ryobi kit. Reckon if I get a combi and impact and see how it goes can always extend to the others if they pull their weight.
 
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It's all about a journey, building your tool base is part of it. Go with the "best "you can afford was the advice I was given. You will soon find out what you need .
 
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Hello all,

Due to the fact I only work as a subbie for wages (as a mate) I need to purchase my own hand tools, power tools and so on from my wages.

I've noticed the Ryobi range of One+ Li-Ions and they do seem to have good reviews on the sites that sell them.

Just wondering if anyone here has used them, or even owns them and thoughts on whether they would be a good starting point for a proper set of power tools.

Currently only have my hand tools and a DeWalt Combi drill. Made the mistake of ordering a Bosch SDS-Quick from Amazon in their sale. :frown:
What batteries does the Dewalt combi you have take?

Also what is a Bosch SDS-Quick?

The Ryobi stuff doesn't look that cheap imo! £50 for a 1.5Ah battery, £68 for a bare impact driver is expensive imho.

What are you looking to buy now and add in the future?
 
What batteries does the Dewalt combi you have take?

Also what is a Bosch SDS-Quick?

The Ryobi stuff doesn't look that cheap imo! £50 for a 1.5Ah battery, £68 for a bare impact driver is expensive imho.

What are you looking to buy now and add in the future?
sds+
sds max
sds quick
spline

there all different shanks

the bosch uneo uses sds quick, try buying the bits and you will struggle.

most places stock sds+ or sometimes sds max for the bigger stuff

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What batteries does the Dewalt combi you have take?

Also what is a Bosch SDS-Quick?

The Ryobi stuff doesn't look that cheap imo! £50 for a 1.5Ah battery, £68 for a bare impact driver is expensive imho.

What are you looking to buy now and add in the future?

Dewalt takes the Ni-Cd old school batterys (the ones screwfix sells with their £99 combi dewalt)

An SDS Quick is effectively a cordless (in my case the cordless Bosch Uneo) drill that takes a different kind of SDS bit. Problem is they only seem to make a handful of bits for it. Waste of money.

What I need the most if a Combi/Impact Driver set at the mo.
 
Dewalt takes the Ni-Cd old school batterys (the ones screwfix sells with their £99 combi dewalt)

An SDS Quick is effectively a cordless (in my case the cordless Bosch Uneo) drill that takes a different kind of SDS bit. Problem is they only seem to make a handful of bits for it. Waste of money.

What I need the most if a Combi/Impact Driver set at the mo.
how much do you want to spend and what brand?


this is the same as what i use

www.fastfix.co.uk/makita/Makita-DK18000-18v-LXT-Twinpack.html

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£289 for 2x 3ah batteries or you can get 2 x 4ah for an extra £30 (i got my batteries before the 4ah was released)


the 458 isnt the latest but it is just slightly lower than the newest makita the 481. it is very powerful for a battery drill though
 
So i have just got home after a jobby and guess what the plumber was kitted out with.... Ryobi One!

We had a good chat about the gear and he said its half decent, looks good and the batteries are fantastic however its not up to a good bashing. He drilled a 25mm hole using the impact driver (wood flat bit) and also admitted he knew thats not what impact drivers were intended for... but as he was doing it the motor leaked some oil and one of the three LEDs on the front gave up lol.

He also said Ryobi, AEG and Milwaukee are all the same brand, apparently all Ryobi and AEG bits are interchangeable but AEG is supposed to be a higher quality i.e. made for commercial use.

I have never used or even looked at AEG so i canne comment.

The Ryobi radio looked like a decent piece of kit though. Apparently it runs for 5 days on a 4Ah battery.
 
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So i have just got home after a jobby and guess what the plumber was kitted out with.... Ryobi One!

We had a good chat about the gear and he said its half decent, looks good and the batteries are fantastic however its not up to a good bashing. He drilled a 25mm hole using the impact driver (wood flat bit) and also admitted he knew thats not what impact drivers were intended for... but as he was doing it the motor leaked some oil and one of the three LEDs on the front gave up lol.

He also said Ryobi, AEG and Milwaukee are all the same brand, apparently all Ryobi and AEG bits are interchangeable but AEG is supposed to be a higher quality i.e. made for commercial use.

I have never used or even looked at AEG so i canne comment.

The Ryobi radio looked like a decent piece of kit though. Apparently it runs for 5 days on a 4Ah battery.
i always use my makita impact drivers for that and i dropped mine down through mezanine floor onto steel and no issues with it 6months later.

never touch makita 3 speed drills the gearboxes are ---- and slip constantly.

thats the 451 i think
 

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