Shower Isolator in a Bathroom airing cupboard

[Dic Penderyn]

Hi All!


Hope you can help with this PIR question!

What code would you give a shower isolator in a bathroom airing cupboard?

 

[telectrix]

as far as i know, as long as it is accessible, no code, no problem. as long as there is a door on the cupboard. not ideal, but nor is it best practice.

 

[kmcgold]

if a pull cord type no problem (no locks on the door)
if not how far away and what zone is it in.

 

[Dic Penderyn]

as far as i know, as long as it is accessible, no code, no problem. as long as there is a door on the cupboard. not ideal, but nor is it best practice.

Thanks telectrix and kmcgold for replies!

When You say it's not ideal nor is it good practice and taking on board what Kmcgold has said.

With the door open it's within zone 2. Would it not warrant a code?

 

[telectrix]

but then you could open the bathroom door ( small bathroom) and then the landing could be in zone 2 by the same argument. the fact that the cupboard has a door puts it outside the bathreoom IMO. some may disagree.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

I won't.

 

[Dic Penderyn]

but then you could open the bathroom door ( small bathroom) and then the landing could be in zone 2 by the same argument. the fact that the cupboard has a door puts it outside the bathreoom IMO. some may disagree.

I like your interpretation!

 

[kmcgold]

if it was a walk in cupboard may be but
it is a cupboard inside a bathroom not a different room imo
will you be standing in a zone when operating the switch?

 

[nickblake]

Me im agreeing with telextric no code seperated by a door , so if you take reg 701.32.1 into account then there shouldnt be a problem, reg states horizontal or inclined ceilings walls with or without doors floors and fixed partiones may be taken into account where these effectivly limit the extent of locationjs containing a bath or shower as well as their zones

 

[Octopus]

Hi All!


Hope you can help with this PIR question!

What code would you give a shower isolator in a bathroom airing cupboard?

I wouldn't give it a code, if one had to allocate it a code then it would be a 4 in my opinion.

 

[kmcgold]

will you be standing in a zone when operating the switch?

 

[telectrix]

you stand in the shower to turn it on. the thingy in the cupboard is to isolate, not operate.

 

[kmcgold]

i switch my shower off by the pull switch after use.
(turn dial no sw)

 

[telectrix]

forgot how to use mine, it's not my birthday for a while

 

[Paul.M]

What zone is the inside of a cupboard? ................... As said before if the door is not locked and the switch is accessible there is no problem that I can see. How many fan isolation switches are in bathroom cupboards?

 

[kmcgold]

will you be standing in a zone when operating the switch?

 

[Dic Penderyn]

Me im agreeing with telextric no code seperated by a door , so if you take reg 701.32.1 into account then there shouldnt be a problem, reg states horizontal or inclined ceilings walls with or without doors floors and fixed partiones may be taken into account where these effectivly limit the extent of locationjs containing a bath or shower as well as their zones

[FONT=&quot]Regulation 512.2.1mentions that:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Every item of electrical equipment to be of a design appropriate to the situation in which it is to be used, or its type of installation shall take account of the conditions likely to be met. [/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]A socket on a landing would not comply with the regs within a distance of 3m [/FONT][FONT=&quot]horizontally from the boundary of zone 1. Therefore would[/FONT][FONT=&quot]a shower isolator within a cupboard be any different whether you could operate it when standing in the bath or not?[/FONT]

 

[Benny_Boy]

I'd never stick a shower iso in a bathroom cupboard, however, how many boiler spurs have you seen in airing cupboards in bathrooms?

how do you code them there thingys?

 

[telectrix]

and immersion heater spurs. where else would they be. OK. we would probably not now install a shower isolator in an airing cupboard, but then again we would not install a rewireable CU or red/black cable. nothing wrong with them though.

 

[Benny_Boy]

and immersion heater spurs. where else would they be. OK. we would probably not now install a shower isolator in an airing cupboard, but then again we would not install a rewireable CU or red/black cable. nothing wrong with them though.

spot on, but it does raise an interesting question:

If you have to wire a boiler in a bathroom airing cupboard, would you raise an eyebrow at sticking the spur in there as a new install?

Or find somewhere else for the wiring centre and spur?