To re-wire? Or not to re-wire?

[Midwest]

It's all gone quiet over there! It does make me smile, big leg'ends on here, get all prime & proper on spelling, grammar & the like, but when THEY make mistakes...................tumbleweed

 

[Midwest]

I don't produce enough stools to fall off, unlike some people

I was gonna say pedestal, but can you climb that far

 

[Toneyz]

The higher they climb the further they fall.

 

[sparksburnout]

I was gonna say pedestal, but can you climb that far

You have lost me a bit here Middy, where is this "its" you are on about?

 

[PEG]

This better end up in the playground,as a straightener...

 

[shaun1]

Perhaps a good approach would be to point out that whilst most test results are acceptable there are some faults and the setup is slightly unconventional. So it may be worth digging a bit deeper (as you will have to anyway to find the low IR faults. If more problems start to appear you could stop and reconsider rewiring options.

 

[EbolaSideRoom]

That will be my approach when I get hold of client.

 

[Dave Jenkins]

I'd suggest a re-wire to address all the issues you've raised. Certainly a new cu at least.

 

[Upton Sparks]

Ebola hey ? I think you've got the Idea, sell them a rewire.

by the way, FI on a EICR should result in an unsatisfactory certificate.
FI are not a get out of jail card. Its not your goal to issue satisfactory certificates, it should be to access the installation and to make sure the installation is safe. Its your Name on it after all.
good luck

 

[sparksburnout]

This better end up in the playground,as a straightener...

Well it looks like it's )) home time but if the readings really are that bad, then it's time for rewiring it, considering the current situation. If they really are that bad, that is.

Ebola hey ? I think you've got the Idea, sell them a rewire.

by the way, FI on a EICR should result in an unsatisfactory certificate.
FI are not a get out of jail card. Its not your goal to issue satisfactory certificates, it should be to access the installation and to make sure the installation is safe. Its your Name on it after all.
good luck

BS. The only thing that results in an unsatisfactory result is a C1 or a C2. Professional sparks should not be looking for any opportunity to do a complete rewire either, the existing installation may be easily corrected by fixing the faults found. If you are going to issue an unsatisfactory certificate then you need to state exactly why it is so, not just give it an ambiguous "FI".

 

[7029 dave]

IMO, okay radials are not the best (just me), with a IR lower than 1 megohm, not the best is it, what age is the cabling ? pvc/rubber?, at the end of the day testing is all well and good, but go with your eyes visual inspection is 90% of condition reports.

 

[Octopus]

and the low IR does speak of something going wrong in the near future.

with a reading you got should mean a C2 and locating it ..... and fixing it.

 

[HandySparks]

BS. The only thing that results in an unsatisfactory result is a C1 or a C2. ...

If the further investigation might reveal a code C1 or C2 item, a code 'FI' should result in an 'Unsatisfactory' report. BYB page 426.

 

[sparksburnout]

If the further investigation might reveal a code C1 or C2 item, a code 'FI' should result in an 'Unsatisfactory' report. BYB page 426.

Yes true, but it is a bit vague?

 

[Upton Sparks]

BS. The only thing that results in an unsatisfactory result is a C1 or a C2. Professional sparks should not be looking for any opportunity to do a complete rewire either, the existing installation may be easily corrected by fixing the faults found. If you are going to issue an unsatisfactory certificate then you need to state exactly why it is so, not just give it an ambiguous "FI".

No. Professional Sparks job's are to make sure the installation is safe.
The selling of your services are completely unrelated to the issuing of certificates, but I do see EICR as a sale tool, because they are..
That does not mean you scare people in to having work done which is not required.
Any rewire will have pro's and con's, and its the customer choice, your job is to explain it and sell your self.

But the us of an FI as,
"well I don't want to put a nasty C2 down as Im' unsure,... so I think if I do a FI we'll all be okay and HappY with a Satisfactory certificate"

No I'm sorry it unsatisfactory it not Vague at all.

you also need to think your issuing a certificate say "this is up to standard and Safe"!, the further investigation is really, I have run out of time on( as your on time frame to complete the testing) this but I am very unhappy with this, it need to be investigated to identify the problem and made good.

Just out of curiosity how many C3 would it take before You issued an unsatisfactory report? ...