Conduit ideas.

[gerry.slater65@]

Hello all.
Doing a favour for a mate. He wants an "industrial" look his new wiring. He wants metal conduit and chunky surface fittings on bare brick walls.
I can't remember the last time that I installed metal conduit.
I haven't got a bender and no taps and die's.
He doesn't mind if it all goes at right angles from box to box.
Is there an easier way or product that I can use without threading everything?
I would appreciate any ideas or advice on this.
As it is a favour, I would like to get it done as quicky as is possible.

Many thanks in advance.

Gerry

 

[loop3]

Boxes everyywhere will look - I been warned for swearing - no so good. Perfect chance to practice. Hire the gear.

 

[loop3]

Galv conduit on brick looks good! I've done some in warehouse to studio converts, and seen heaps in the states. Stylish.

 

[telectrix]

which planet is your mate from? if he insists, you can get push fit boxes for galv. conduit.

 

[danf1966]

CEF will hire you the tools. love metal conduit jobs

 

[ashrow]

They used to do a "knock on" couplers and box for conduits. i have used them in the past
I used them where they cut a lift in through a concrete floor and cut through around 6 conduits which were the earthing for the circuits

Ask your supplier or try google

 

[SYKRAPS]

Use plastic and spray it may be an option, not aware of any but it would not surprise me if you can actually but it in a silver finish

 

[Silly Sausage]

Gerry, advertise for an experienced conduit fitter and you do the wiring.
You (and the customer) will get a good job done & you can look & learn. Win all round!

 

[bigspark17]

i dont know what sort of finish it would give but im with SYKRAPS.. sounds ull b more comfartable with plastic cond then spray it..

 

[gerry.slater65@]

His choice.

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America.

 

[Silly Sausage]

Sprayed PVC would look sh!t. Especially when it starts getting worn.

I've yet to find a decent silver spray.

 

[gerry.slater65@]

A very good idea. Thanks

 

[MDJ]

Will the conduit be the earth though? he may need it threaded and done properly, time to buy a bender and some stocks and dies.

 

[Silly Sausage]

I'll do it for £15 an hour, plus lodgings.
I could do with some practice!

 

[gerry.slater65@]

I'll do it for £15 an hour, plus lodgings.
I could do with some practice!

Cheers I'll let you know haha

 

[gerry.slater65@]

Will the conduit be the earth though? he may need it threaded and done properly, time to buy a bender and some stocks and dies.

No and not cost effective for him or me.

 

[Silly Sausage]

Serious note...
There was a thread free, totally earth continuous, push fit, secured with grub screws, metal conduit system mentioned on here once.
Haven't a clue where though.

 

[danf1966]

conduit acting as cpc or not , still must have continuity to earth.

 

[ashrow]

The push fit and grub screw and also the knock on fixtures all comply
I love working with/on conduit when price/client allows (it is like MICC a skill needed to be learnt)

 

[Guest55]

CEF will hire you the tools. love metal conduit jobs

interesting...
do you know if they hire out crimp sets for 95 / 120 lugs ?
need a set for next weekend

 

[danf1966]

my local one does, hopefully yours does too

 

[Stonsey]

Stainless pipe would look even better, will cost a bomb though!

This is the last bit of conduit I did...

 

[ashrow]

stonsey, looks good but why install the conduit looking at the rest of the install

 

[Jimsparky]

I did this in my mates big modern apartment, all brick internal walls. Galv conduit and MK metal clad accessories ! Looked awesome

 

[Stonsey]

Clients specifications, a national company that signals trains and does track work and wears orange.

Even as all existing install is quite often to a poor standard any new must be in steel conduit and metal accessories. A complete waste of time and way over the top IMHO.

All of this to supply a new point of use water heater as old gas one had failed.

 

[phawk]

MICC looks awesome on bare brick if its installed properly.

 

[MDJ]

Stainless pipe would look even better, will cost a bomb though!

This is the last bit of conduit I did...

Dear oh Dear, where are the saddles? lol

 

[ashrow]

Dear oh Dear, where are the saddles? lol

My horse takes my saddle hehe
(Tax man my profit and the Mrs the rest)

I did not even spot the saddle issue

 

[MDJ]

Question is how many would you put on that pipe run?

 

[amlu]

had a small job recently in a flat converted from industrial units, all wiring done in metal cable trays, metal conduits, bare walls and bare pipes too. it looked nice and cool, bomb proof, easy for maintenance too. hire some some old school conduit master and go for it.

 

[Stonsey]

I agree that aesthetically it needs one on the ceiling before it drops down to the spur, it's all threaded in tight and fixed through the bezer boxes. Flanged couplers were used and the lead washer compressed. I did try and move it when installed and everything was solid so didn't put in saddles.

 

[ashrow]

Question is how many would you put on that pipe run?

6 or 7

 

[MDJ]

I agree that aesthetically it needs one on the ceiling before it drops down to the spur, it's all threaded in tight and fixed through the bezer boxes. Flanged couplers were used and the lead washer compressed. I did try and move it when installed and everything was solid so didn't put in saddles.

Hey Stonsey I'm actually just having some fun with you, the actual conduit looks very very neat and professional, however to be perfect I recon 5-6 saddles are needed, 3-4 on the ceiling and one either side of the bubble set, JMO, can't comment in a negative way about the actual pipe though, as mentioned very nice, I wish we had a thumbs up smillie.

 

[Phillcbr400]

If you want a proper job done you're going to have to folk out for the tools. If its a one off I would just hire. And bends will always look nicer then boxes. The good thing about conduit work is you can stand back and see all your nice and tidy work. Sounds like a good idea to me what your mate wants. Gets pics up after!

 

[Stonsey]

Question is how many would you put on that pipe run?

6 or 7

Aesthetically I should have put some in but fixing distance is 1.75m and the longest straight run was 1m before a bend.

 

[Stonsey]

I agree that aesthetically it needs one on the ceiling before it drops down to the spur, it's all threaded in tight and fixed through the bezer boxes. Flanged couplers were used and the lead washer compressed. I did try and move it when installed and everything was solid so didn't put in saddles.

Hey Stonsey I'm actually just having some fun with you, the actual conduit looks very very neat and professional, however to be perfect I recon 5-6 saddles are needed, 3-4 on the ceiling and one either side of the bubble set, JMO, can't comment in a negative way about the actual pipe though, as mentioned very nice, I wish we had a thumbs up smillie.

Cheers dude, we can't all be perfect and hindsight is a fantastic thing!! I do enjoy working with it, a great sense of job satisfaction when you've measured it, cut it, bent it and it fits afterwards. I had never worked with the stuff except in college on my apprenticeship up untill a few years ago and still only do a handful of installs a year.

 

[MDJ]

Cheers dude, we can't all be perfect

Very True Fella, your right there, I'm far from it..

 

[ayjay]

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"I haven't got a bender and no taps and die's." why would you want taps?



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[Engineer54]

Serious note...
There was a thread free, totally earth continuous, push fit, secured with grub screws, metal conduit system mentioned on here once.
Haven't a clue where though.

The push fit and grub screw and also the knock on fixtures all comply
I love working with/on conduit when price/client allows (it is like MICC a skill needed to be learnt)

I've been given samples of these types of conduit fittings over the years and i can tell you now, they were not fit for purpose. Pipes wobbled around in the fittings, and i certainly wouldn't ever rely on a grub screw for CPC continuity purposes!! By the way, the fittings are a lot more expensive than the standard screw type fittings... The only time i've allowed the use of any of these fittings, was to get over a cut off damaged section of conduit... Even then i wanted a couple of spot welds on the pipe to fitting connections!!

Crap is the best i can say for a system that uses these fittings throughout. One metallic conduit system i WOULD run a separate CPC through....lol!!

 

[imago]

I'd either do it yourself with Galv, take your time and enjoy the practice. Or, as suggested get someone in to do the tube and you wire it up.

Either way you can make it work to your advantage by making it look good. Take loads of pictures of the finished article and then market it with fliers/web site targeted to areas whith similar buildings. You'll be surprised how much work 'something different' can generate when it's in front of people.

 

[urbangee]

Really? Give it a few months and the paint will flake. A poor idea.

 

[rmc86uk]

Conlok! Also the biggest pile of **** you will ever install!

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[gerry.slater65@]

origional post ---

"I haven't got a bender and no taps and die's." why would you want taps?



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To turn the water on. And thanks.

 

[SLSpark]

CEF hire out hydraulic crimping tool does right upto 125mm+