Certification of a rewire of kitchen lights (Part P) Please read

[thestig246]

table 2.2 in the guidance note 3 says that anything below 1meg is not acceptable. I know its far from ideal, but there's no other options currently. The readings were closer to 2meg from what i can remember.

 

[Octopus]

table 2.2 in the guidance note 3 says that anything below 1meg is not acceptable. I know its far from ideal, but there's no other options currently. The readings were closer to 2meg from what i can remember.

If you are going to do a cert you need certainty about your readings!

 

[Knobhead]

If it was 1mΩ I’d be looking for the fire extinguisher.

There’s a bit of a difference between the size of an m and an M.

 

[TJ Anderson]

table 2.2 in the guidance note 3 says that anything below 1meg is not acceptable. I know its far from ideal, but there's no other options currently. The readings were closer to 2meg from what i can remember.

How old would you say the installation is?

 

[thestig246]

I know its all very bad condition, i thought it would be an afternoons work... DOH! It varries some of it is around 10 years old (the ring i intend to come off) but the lights upstairs and in the existing kitchen has got to be 50s-or 60s. its all 2core and all the wooden backed fittings...

 

[Octopus]

We are not trying to be difficult but unless you are very careful you could end up in a big pile of poo.

When you do the work (assuming you do) you need to be crystal clear about the cert you give, the accuracy of the the readings and diligent use of the comments box...

 

[R G]

The last thing in the world you want is someone else to go in and find fault with the other areas of the property , when you have advised the lighting needs work/rewiring

 

[Guest125]

If the customer is so eager to spend the money for a lighting re-wire I am sure they can stretch to another couple of hundred quid to get the whole place tested. Seems like money well spent to me.

 

[thestig246]

They want a complete rewire at some point.

 

[thestig246]

as long as the work i do is compliant with regs and state my findings on the certificate then is that not enough. It needs completely rewiring we have low IRS no earth in cables and its just a DIY disaster. But at this moment in time rewiring is not an option due to there cash flow. So they just wanted the kitchen and the room above lights to be safe.

 

[Anthony S]

Your filling the test sheet out and signing it

 

[thestig246]

Its a complete ball ache... I just want to make sure i am covered and nothing comes back to me in the event of a fault. So i will state on the cert that the existing installation is unsatisfactory from visual inspection upon the installation.

 

[ruston]

as long as the work i do is compliant with regs and state my findings on the certificate then is that not enough. It needs completely rewiring we have low IRS no earth in cables and its just a DIY disaster. But at this moment in time rewiring is not an option due to there cash flow. So they just wanted the kitchen and the room above lights to be safe.

That's probably what they told the last electrician that pulled them out of it ten years ago.

 

[thestig246]

good point

 

[R G]

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That's probably what they told the last electrician that pulled them out of it ten years ago.

Thats exactly the way you should look at most jobs , customers don't tell you very much if they can help it , only what suits them ....

 

[Leesparkykent]

If you are not happy with the state of the installation and the customer isn't willing to pay to bring the circuits that they want you to work on up to scratch then you need to make a decision to do the job or not in the 1st place. I know what Option I would choose as at the end of the day it's your name on the cert.

 

[ruston]

Thats exactly the way you should look at most jobs , customers don't tell you very much if they can help it , only what suits them ....

Some are worse than others................. usually Mr & Mrs cannybody are salt of the earth, now takeaways and the like..............." no, no one has touched it........... then it worked before you touched it . Watch them all lol.

 

[thestig246]

yeah your right there, its not something i had thought about to be honest. Im new to certifying my own work and stuff and its all a learning curve, including some of the tales the customers tell you... lol If i had known id have never got involved, the problem is its a neighbour down the road and they came knocking at the door so i could hardly say no at the time.

Its that old saying its easier to say yes than no...

 

[ruston]

yeah your right there, its not something i had thought about to be honest. Im new to certifying my own work and stuff and its all a learning curve, including some of the tales the customers tell you... lol If i had known id have never got involved, the problem is its a neighbour down the road and they came knocking at the door so i could hardly say no at the time.

Its that old saying its easier to say yes than no...

Aye , just take care , and as others have said watch your back.

Tell them what is required to make it safe. It is up to them whether they listen. You can't do any more than that, you can't make them have work done.

 

[not clever]

Just give them a price for splitting the tails adding a small cu & run in a new circuit for your lights + MEB's.
You could also offer to undertake an EICR of the existing installation, do it at a cheaper price while undertaking the above.