Changes to Landlord regulation in Scotland

baldelectrician · Mar 27, 2012

I think we have to push for the mandatory checks (by a compotent company / person) to raise the standards in rental dwellings

How do you justify the Gas Safe scheme if there should be no monopoly?

Better to have a scheme that we all have to obey rather than have doubt and joiners etc doing electrical checks (if they are not compotent)

oldtimer · Mar 28, 2012

Yep I wasin the same boat as you the letting agent asked if I could quote for a new CUthe property was a cottage where an old lady lived and she had stuff everywhereanyway I got some low reading on my survey so I asked the letting agent if shehad any test certificates/sheets she said yes for the past 2 years so she sentme 1 sheet (copied out of the BRB) with 2 circuits tested and at the end of the2 circuits was 2010 and 2011 i.e. one circuit tested every year (rolling PIR)and yes they were registered.

So again that takes us back to an individual doing 4 PIR/EICRs a day (drive by)and yes you could say closed shop but here is the rub the minute they make thismandatory then companies with no electrical experience start a"Nationwide" test and inspect company up they will not take on andpay the going rate to old heads like us no they will pay some 5 week wonder £6or maybe £7 an hour to do the 4 or more EICRs a day all with the blessing andsupport from the scheme provider who remember is on a cut (1%-1.5%)of theirprofits after they hit £250,000 turnover (reference Select joining application)or in other words we will be in the same boat as when we were in the EETPU runby Frank Chapel who was not interested in the single member No instead thescheme provider will allow these big companies to like the banks policethemselves.

Just to point out I am not being negative for the sake of it I would just likea level playing surface where the law stipulates exactly what it expects from"Electrical Checks" on a rented property because I know and you alsoknow that if this were the case then the big companies could not competebecause they are more interested in profit than safety.

The only thing that gets me on this subject is that the Schemies and these bigcompanies have a financial gain to lobby (push through) these new laws thatwill put guys like me and you out of business and turn what should be responsibleelectrical safety checks into drive by checks that defeats the whole purpose ofdoing them in the first place

oldtimer · Mar 28, 2012

Just when you could not think it could get any worse i got a reply from my email they have sent me the proposals but wait for it I am not supposed to show it to anybody as it is under embargo until 30/03/12 and they are only trying to introduce BL&^%%$$£ PART P in Scotland

Well I better get down to Tesco for a application form

baldelectrician · Mar 28, 2012

oldtimer said:
Just when you could not think it could get any worse i got a reply from my email they have sent mr the proposals but wait for it I am not supposed to show it to anybody as it is under embargo until 30/03/12 and they are only trying to introduce BL&^%%$$£ PART P in Scotland

Well I better get down to Tesco for a application form

There will be no part P in Scotland
As far as the mandatory regulation goes it will get lots of work for electricians locally- now they check 10% (probably 5% correctly). If this happens they will have to get >90% checked, there will be 9 x the work in rental properties than there is now.

BigBreakfast · Mar 28, 2012

Well here's hoping that any change is for the better, not only for the customers/clients, but also for the honest, reliable, trustworthy, competent sparky?

pushrod · Mar 28, 2012

oldtimer said:
Just when you could not think it could get any worse i got a reply from my email they have sent me the proposals but wait for it I am not supposed to show it to anybody as it is under embargo until 30/03/12 and they are only trying to introduce BL&^%%$$£ PART P in Scotland

Well I better get down to Tesco for a application form

I had something similar from an all party communities and local government committee, with the embargo til 30/3/12 all over it(this is a private part of the forum), basically saying PART P was wonderful and that they want to strengthen it. No mention of qualified people, just people who are in schemes. Scant acknowledgement of the conflict of interests of such schemes. Wonder how much niceic elecsa and napit contributed to have dinner with them. At least the government had been looking into having less regulation and less associated cost!
What do they suggest - health warnings on sockets saying only registered people can do most electrical work!

Closed shop for the Part P scams!