Do I need to use a back box in MDF?

[numberwrong]

Hi,

I've put in a switched fused spur to supply some computer/networking kit in a metal rack (rack is earth bonded to the spur).

I was going to just screw the face plate straight in to some inclosed MDF boxing which contains Cat6/Satellite cables.

Is there any reason this needs to be but in a back box? If I'm honest this may be a pain to retro fit now. If there is a problem could I use a load of PVC tape to 'contain' the terminals on the spur?

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

this is A M A Z I N G

 

[DPG]

Do yourself a favour and ask the mods to remove this thread. You WILL get a lot of stick for this.
Assuming this isn't a wind up then yes, you should use a back box. Forget the tape. Daz

 

[Welchyboy1]

Cracker!

 

[Guest111]

All connection MUST be made in a non flammable enclosure,this includes connection at any outlet e.g switches and sockets.

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

What if he uses a full roll of tape?

 

[telectrix]

but is the rack extraneous. doubtful. here a picture tells a thousand words.

 

[Darkwood]

Hi,

I've put in a switched fused spur to supply some computer/networking kit in a metal rack (rack is earth bonded to the spur).

I was going to just screw the face plate straight in to some inclosed MDF boxing which contains Cat6/Satellite cables.

Is there any reason this needs to be but in a back box? If I'm honest this may be a pain to retro fit now. If there is a problem could I use a load of PVC tape to 'contain' the terminals on the spur?

I seriously in shock... don't you require basic electrical skills/knowledge to do stage lighting or are you just a plug and play technician (Title exceeds ability).

So the Data guy comes along to access his cables due to a fault and gets killed because its a pain to fit the correct box...

Screening
Containment / segregation
Access for other trades (safety)

These grids can be used in certain set-ups but deffo not your situe.

Sorry for been so blunt but if your undertaking electrical work then you should have a grasp of the basics and asking is insulation tape would suffice is gobsmacking!


You didn't just disregard one regulation asking this question but several.. hence the onslaught.. we often get accused of bullying tactics but sometimes its more than justified to show the OP that he's well out of his depth even when its a simple job.

 

[Guest111]

All I'm waiting for is him to ask the reg number,which I can,t remember but it was one of those things you were taught and never deviated from.

 

[Guest111]

Hope Glenn doesn't, see this,I predict another ban.

 

[ian.settle1]

but is the rack extraneous. doubtful. here a picture tells a thousand words.


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Bit of a subtle dig with the picture Tel

 

[telectrix]

hope it was not too subtle for OP.

 

[Rockingit]

TBH, after that incident yesterday with the MCB testing thread I'm thinking this is just pure trolling.

 

[Darkwood]

I don't really want to ask but are the supply cables to the spur running in the same area as the data cables?:shocked:

 

[Rockingit]

I seriously in shock... don't you require basic electrical skills/knowledge to do stage lighting or are you just a plug and play technician (Title exceeds ability).

Matey - don't you go lumping this turnip in with my lot of lads!! Nowt to see here!

 

[Pete999]

Got to make an appointment with the shrink, I.m seeing things surely OMG Tape???????

 

[stitch]

I would have thought Glenn would have been here by now. LOL

 

[Pete999]

Perhaps hes given up the will to live, or read some of these daft threads

 

[Darkwood]

Matey - don't you go lumping this turnip in with my lot of lads!! Nowt to see here!

No offense Rock' just enquiring as to whether he has given himself that title or actual is classed as competent to design, work on and sign off stage lighting rigs or is he adopting a respected title just because he tiewraps cables and plugs them in?

 

[telectrix]

could always get a wood butcher to fabricate a back box from mdf. as long as you don't mind 4" nails sticking out of the fascia. just bond them with some 4mm.

 

[topquark]

If you soak the mdf it makes the screws go in easier :tounge_smile:

 

[Rockingit]

No offense Rock' just enquiring as to whether he has given himself that title or actual is classed as competent to design work on and sign off stage lighting rigs or is he adopting a respected title just because he tiewraps cables and plugs them in?

I've only just looked at his profile and now see what you're on about. Sweet Jesus, he'd last about 2mins with me, of which 1.5 would be making the tea and the other .5 finding his coat.

TO THE O.P.- I can't and shan't swear at you on here for two simple reasons 1) the filter and 2) you're just not worth the ban. But let me tell you this in very very clear and simple language:

1) Whatever they let you do in school/college pushing a few buttons does not make you a lighting technician.

2) Clearly demonstrating that you have ZERO electrical competence IS making you nowhere near even wannabe electrician.

3) Go and get some spot cream, then find the first girl that doesn't cross the street to avoid you as many drinks as it takes for you to no longer be a virgin.

4) A career in lighting or any other form of stagecraft isn't for you. If you though it was, you were wrong. I hear McDonalds are always recruiting, you can do the night shift there instead.

5) Do not, ever, darken my doorway or you will discover what two and a half decades of being a global lampy also brings with it.

6) This is me being kind.

 

[telectrix]

that's worth a thanks, even if just for the effort of typing it. :tounge_smile: