extra socket

[j.mawer]

Surely the socket needs protection because its domestic and therefore not under use of a trained person (411.3.3 point i) UNLESS it is for a specific use and labeled as such (411.3.3 point b)

The cable needs to have RCD protection UNLESS it is surface mounted or buried by more than 5cm or enclosed in earthed conduit etc as specified in 522.6.6

 

[Amp David]

Surely the socket needs protection because its domestic and therefore not under use of a trained person (411.3.3 point i) UNLESS it is for a specific use and labeled as such (411.3.3 point b)

The cable needs to have RCD protection UNLESS it is surface mounted or buried by more than 5cm or enclosed in earthed conduit etc as specified in 522.6.6

Exactly.

 

[j.mawer]

That was a busy minute!

 

[tony mc]

I take it that its the cable supplying the new socket that is being discussed not the existing cable on the cct in the propery or am I reading the post wrong.

 

[j.mawer]

I was indeed talking about the new cable, sorry that wasn't very clear

 

[telectrix]

exactly why, in my last post, i advocated the use of a RCD FCU. protecting the new cable as well as the new socket.

 

[Wiredspark]

Im with Amp David etc on this but, never mind any the confusion bulldung on this matter, if you really don't know, stay safe, keep the customer safe and protect new cct in it's entirety. They sleep safe, you sleep safe and all is well in the world.

 

[Wiredspark]

I really can't help feel that sometimes folk are far far far too lazy. I'm definitely not of the mind set of "What is the absolute minimum I can get away with?" and I think that some others could learn from this thinking also.

 

[telectrix]

I really can't help feel that sometimes folk are far far far too lazy. I'm definitely not of the mind set of "What is the absolute minimum I can get away with?" and I think that some others could learn from this thinking also.

but nwe have to educate joe public from that same mind set " what is the minimum cost i can get away with" today i had a call-out, 2 5' fluorescent tubes and 2 starters in a fitting. as it was only a mile away , when he asked me how much, i said £40 all-in. he said " that's steep, can't you do it cheaper?". i said OK< call it £35. he then got his cheque book out. needless to say, next time he' s got a fault, ********* ( the stars are my own, not a mod's)

 

[Deleted member 26818]

There appears to be some confusion over what I have stated in my previous posts, and as to the requirements in BS7671 for 30mA RCD protection.
To clarify:
Only socket-outlets intended for unsupervised general use by ordinary persons, and those used for mobile equipment used outdoors require 30mA RCD protection.
If the socket-outlet is not for equipment used outdoors, and is not intended for general use, there is no requirement for RCD protection.
I did not refer to the cable requiring 30mA RCD protection, as the OP did not specify whether the cable is conceled in a wall, or surface run.

 

[SMB]

ive got a very large bathroom, I think I might wire a socket in it tonight before I have a bath.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

ive got a large bathroom, I think I might wire a socket in it tonight before I have a bath.

You will have to provide 30mA RCD protection for the circuit that supplies the socket, unless it's SELV.

 

[SMB]

Thanks for the info spinlondon.

I was quietly laughing really, you didnt quite get it it appears.

Ahh well.

 

[telectrix]

put the socket 3metres from the bath, then you'll need an extension lead for the portable tv, dvd player, x-box, freeview box, VCR, and hair dryer, use two of those 3 into1 adaptors, stacked and balance on edge of bath.

p.s. make sure wifey has the video cam.handy -- £250 from you've been electrocuted ( sorry, framed)

 

[J@mes]

ive got a very large bathroom, I think I might wire a socket in it tonight before I have a bath.

why not wire it WHILE you are in the bath? At least you know you can reach it then!

 

[SMB]

I haven't really got a very big bath-room, I haven't got a very big anything.
But......sockets and baths....and.....water......and BS7671......its interesting hey?

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Thank god for flat screen TVs, so much easier to balance on the bath taps.

 

[telectrix]

Thank god for flat screen TVs, so much easier to balance on the bath taps.

or hang from the shower head

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Unfortunatly my bungee strap wasn't up to it.

 

[SMB]

it just all sounds so dangerous......

JOAN..!!!......GO GET THE CANDLES!