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yep, and lead sheathed twin with the lead sheath as cpc.(only on rip-outs though. never installed it. would have liked to, though).Remember the wooden switch back boxes Tel?
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yep, and lead sheathed twin with the lead sheath as cpc.(only on rip-outs though. never installed it. would have liked to, though).Remember the wooden switch back boxes Tel?
I can remember being shown how to install wooden back boxes, and those 13 Amp sockets that didn't have a back box as such, more like a patress type thing, I used to call them Castle sockets they were MK, and a right booger to fit.yep, and lead sheathed twin with the lead sheath as cpc.(only on rip-outs though. never installed it. would have liked to, though).
have you dissed both the L and E of that leg from last socket and the CU, in order to make the circuit a true radial?I’ve sorted the neutral fault. Was one of the legs back to the board strangely. I’ve disconnected both ends made safe and reduced to a 20 amp breaker. I’ve also swapped the metal fittings for pendants. The assessor had to cancel the visit and rescheduled for next Saturday. So gave me time to sort things. Did it yesterday morning.
Agree Pete. The double insulation section 412.1.3 says it "shall not be applied to any circuit where (some things) or where a user may change items of equipment without authorisation."Appreciate your hypothesis Mate but it only needs one home owner to start sticking Metal decorative switches and fittings up, on a circuit without a cpc, and that blows your thoughts out of the water.
I don't think or believe that a circuit without a cpc, with plastic switches etc, is the same as a Double insulated hand tool, nice idea, but not for me I'm afraid.
I’ve sorted the neutral fault. Was one of the legs back to the board strangely. I’ve disconnected both ends made safe and reduced to a 20 amp breaker. I’ve also swapped the metal fittings for pendants. The assessor had to cancel the visit and rescheduled for next Saturday. So gave me time to sort things. Did it yesterday morning.
He'll soon get a call if it's not.So you've now got a kitchen on a 20A radial - is this suitable given the appliances they have?
Yes, cable disconnected both ends.
If you haven't removed the faulty leg from the socket and consumer unit at the consumer unit you want to put in the earth bar all three conductors and make safe (terminate in wago's etc) at the socket not trying to tell you how to suck eggs just a tip also there is a sticker for the consumer unit and do a letter informing the customer regarding no metal fitting on lighting circuit and advise getting the leg replaced/repaired.Thanks for getting back on the forum with a reply and all the best next Saturday.have you dissed both the L and E of that leg from last socket and the CU, in order to make the circuit a true radial?
Thank You. I just put both ends in wagos and flagged cable ‘do not terminate ‘at CCU.
Appreciate your hypothesis Mate but it only needs one home owner to start sticking Metal decorative switches and fittings up, on a circuit without a cpc, and that blows your thoughts out of the water.
I don't think or believe that a circuit without a cpc, with plastic switches etc, is the same as a Double insulated hand tool, nice idea, but not for me I'm afraid.
If you are going to go to the trouble of installing a cpc, you may as well just rewire the entire lighting circuit in question.I have learnt allot on this thread.
Thanks all.
I still believe in trying to install CPC to lighting, especially if there was CPC there before. It could be a loose connection somewhere that need a turn with an screwdriver.
I still believe in trying to install CPC to lighting, especially if there was CPC there before. It could be a loose connection somewhere that need a turn with an screwdriver.
think sham means if there was a cpc in the cable/s and it has been lost somewhere. he may be too young to have come across the 60's "lighting without cpc" type of installation.Wtf?
Either the cable has a cpc or it doesn’t
I’ve come across loads of houses with twin and earth for the loop, and just twin on the switch drops ...
Thank you.think sham means if there was a cpc in the cable/s and it has been lost somewhere. he may be too young to have come across the 60's "lighting without cpc" type of installation.
@sham
Please do not mix up offended with insulted, been offended because a member has stated a valid point is not reason to call it an insult, I prefer you would respond in a more appreciative manner when you are been corrected or if you disagree then show why you consider your stance to be correct.
''You don't know what you are doing do you.''
To me,that reply is a insult. It had nothing to do with the question.
An insult is a purposeful attempt to make someone feel or look bad – or both. One way to tell if you've been accidentally offended or purposefullyinsulted is to inform the person who upset you that you did not appreciate his remark.
But I'm sure you can not change a fuse board if earthing not correct. It defeats the object. If an inspector asks you to carry out an RCD trip test, you are in trouble
What do you mean regarding the function of RCDs ?
You don't know what you are doing do you.
RCD trip tests are done AT the RCD.
That is another insult
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