Patio wall brick lights

[sidekick]

Does anyone know the best way to fit and connect x 10 LED brick lights in patio dwarf wall where both sides are visible and to be rendered.
Have t/e inside ready to feed through wall to outside but without actually having the brick lights yet not sure how it will or should work.
Assume conduit through cavity of wall which although is only 10mm at moment i can get to it as no copings fitted yet.
Problem is not sure how to connect and loop from one light to next.

 

[pistolpete]

Using flex is easiest, led ones I fitted came with 2 flex glands, one in and one on. Hope that helps

 

[monkeyelectric]

Does anyone know the best way to fit and connect x 10 LED brick lights in patio dwarf wall where both sides are visible and to be rendered.
Have t/e inside ready to feed through wall to outside but without actually having the brick lights yet not sure how it will or should work.
Assume conduit through cavity of wall which although is only 10mm at moment i can get to it as no copings fitted yet.
Problem is not sure how to connect and loop from one light to next.

I wouldn't have used t+e, either flex or hituff with stuffing glands, you're better off getting the fittings to see for yourself the best way to connect them

 

[guest119]

Is this another Electrical Trainee thread?

Boydy

 

[monkeyelectric]

Is this another Electrical Trainee thread?

Boydy

Meaning?

 

[guest119]

Meaning basic stuff, or even very basic to the point where asking such a question is giving yourself a showing up.
Therefor my assumption, Electrical Trainee.

Boydy

 

[monkeyelectric]

Meaning basic stuff, or even very basic to the point where asking such a question is giving yourself a showing up.
Therefor my assumption, Electrical Trainee.

Boydy

I thought you were refering to all of us for a minute, i'll have you know i done 6 weeks so i'm on £60k a year not £50k!

 

[guest119]

As long as you are getting it down with expenses to below the 40% threshold Monkeye.

Boydy

 

[shay.sparky]

I did a 260 week course £260 a week ;(

 

[monkeyelectric]

As long as you are getting it down with expenses to below the 40% threshold Monkeye.

Boydy

Of course! On paper i'm below £8000 so i don't pay any tax at all, they'll only waste it

 

[monkeyelectric]

I did a 260 week course £260 a week ;(

Was the course in cake decorating though?

 

[sidekick]

Meaning basic stuff, or even very basic to the point where asking such a question is giving yourself a showing up.
Therefor my assumption, Electrical Trainee.

Boydy

Not helpful and just leads to thread going off at a tangent.
Forum designed for help and advice or discussion not critical comments about those who are in a place you once were.
Help, advise or stay out please.

 

[sidekick]

Using flex is easiest, led ones I fitted came with 2 flex glands, one in and one on. Hope that helps

Thanks for that. Was thinking of using hi tuff flex from outside via adaptable box but not sure how the lights will need connecting as customer selected one which is currenntly out of stock.
If they do have the 2 flex glands, one in and one out that would be simple. Would the flex need to be in conduit in the cavity. it would only be a couple of inches down with a coping on top so thought ok without.

 

[Johnuk]

arctic flex would be best to use. and just look it up online on the one they picked sure there is some info on the item

 

[sidekick]

Now have the fittings which came prewired with 2m flex and no way to loop in/out at the fitting. So I can minimise the wiring back to supply j/box at house wall I would like to get away from separate run of cable in conduit to each light. If anyone has experience or best method I could adopt I would appreciate advice. Unable to run 10 cables into house as it has solid concrete floor so would all be in the room.

 

[Marvo]

You're going to have to run a single circuit from the house and install a suitable enclosure and make a maintenance free joint at each fitting or maybe use a resin/gel joint at each fitting instead.

 

[sidekick]

You're going to have to run a single circuit from the house and install a suitable enclosure and make a maintenance free joint at each fitting or maybe use a resin/gel joint at each fitting instead.

Thanks for that Marvo. That is the way I am looking at. However, my dilemma is finding a suitable enclosure. The wall is double skinned but will be rendered on both sides. The cavity will just about take 20mm conduit to run the cable to and from each light point but at each fitting I will only have access through the 71mm x71mm recess to get in any enclosure to connect the loop in and out cable and the fitting flex. Any ideas what I could use which would do the job correctly as in maintenance free with no future access needed or not maintenance free but easy to access.

 

[Richard Burns]

Unfortunately the light design and space available does not make this easy, but if you have a 71x71 recess that you can use you could get a 60mm IP44 JB in that space as so long as the wall does not fill with water you should be OK with IP44. However it would not be maintenance free so would have to be accessible in some way.
Failing that in the space you have you are limited as an off the wall idea you might be able to use scotchloks for the connection and seal with SA tape, you can get 600V 10A scotchloks but this would not be an ideal solution. Again not maintenance free.
I have seen T splice crimps somewhere but not sure where.

 

[Marvo]

Bottom line is you'd have a much easier life if more appropriate fittings were being used with an internal connection facility. If they were specified by the customer I'd have told them to exchange them for something else. As things are you'll just have to hunt around for the smallest connection box you can find and fill it with waterproofing gel or similar. I'm not sure about the scotchlok and self amalgamating tape idea, that really would be a last resort for me.

 

[shocking_eg]

where's lofty when you need him !!!? lol