polarity argument at work

[mogga]

How many posts do you have to have made before picking a fight with a moderator is allowed?

3,893 s a good number lol

 

[jaresquire]

So..,why sleeve over Black when it is now a 'Live' colour?

Edit: I mean 'Line', I'm on night work at the moment!

 

[mogga]

I Have argued that Jare it all comes down to single ph 3 ph new old confused EU wiring
as for SWA Grey is to be used as neutral as recomended by ESC to prevent confusing things If they dont like "Confusing" things WTF did they agree to change to bring us inline with those EU members who cant wire anything right anyways

 

[BigAndyB]

Surely, the point is if it sleeved, there is no problem what you use. As long as both ends are the same.
The problem occurs when there is no sleeving, and assumptions are made, and we know what assumption is - the mother of all **ck-ups.

 

[Adam W]

The problem arises when you put the sleeved black in the L terminal and the brown in the A terminal on the emergency fittings, while someone has fed the permanent live into the sleeved black and taken the brown back from the switch.
Either that or when you use prewired connectors where the manufacturer has wired brown to L and black to A, but the installer insists on doing it the other way around.

Can anyone explain how they wire non-emergency fittings if they're using black as switched live? Do you take a 4 core to the fitting and terminate the brown so you can continue using sleeved black as switched live? Bear in mind the NICEIC recommend any unused cores should be earthed, does this mean brown is now earth in part of the installation?

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Telectrix- think I can smell something bull**** right there. Nothing to do with the argument!

I think I can see your problem.
You are looking for an argument.
Unfortunately you've chosen the wrong subject.
Other than you, no one cares enough about the subject to argue about it.
As long as the same colour is used at both ends of the cable, it doesn't matter which one it is.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

So..,why sleeve over Black when it is now a 'Live' colour?

Edit: I mean 'Line', I'm on night work at the moment!

It's a live colour only on 3phase.
Single phase has to be brown.

 

[jaresquire]

Thanks Spin, I got all ---- anyway and looked up table 51 in the BGB!