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This sub-forum seems to have gone very quiet since the last post over a week ago - is everybody too busy studying the new 4th edition of the Code of Practice, and the ramifications contained therein!!
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markc123
I did my PAT testing qualification last year, as another added extra qualification to boost my CV.....massive error, employers had a field day, and my eyeballs are burning...PAT testing is literally the worst thing in the world. Is there anyway of undoing a qualifcation, like writing to city & guilds asking them to review the awarding and revoke it haha
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Pat the tester
Views on IET Code also posted on news section of Seaward website. Challenges, yes, but new opportunities als if we can all adapt to the risk assessment emphasis.
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grantr37
I could do with a new copy of the updated book, how much is it? also has the 2377 been changed again? employers will probably be looking for the new version soon then?
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grantr37
there's not many people posting on here just now as PAT testing is being done for by the agencies and "recruitment agency manufactured" companies in a manner that could be compared to some things that may be observed on pay per view TV....there's the 55p merchants and the supposed companies that have 900 people running around with boxes of stickers and labels whacking them on everywhere.......the responsibility falls on the "pat testers" that are putting on all the stickers without doing the tests if anything goes wrong and not the "company" employing them...
These testers are getting minimum wage and using their own car, paying £60 or £70 a month to rent a tester from the company.....basically franchisees who don't see any of the turnover/real earnings...
These testers are getting minimum wage and using their own car, paying £60 or £70 a month to rent a tester from the company.....basically franchisees who don't see any of the turnover/real earnings...
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Pat the tester
Well all that should change once dutyholders properly understand the need for assessing risk as required by IET Code, along with the elimination of 'next test due' dates on the labels that will mean records being properly maintained. If implemented correctly the new IET Code should do away with the cowboys and hopefully strengthen the hand of those PAT test companies providing a professional service.
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oldtimer
So in a rental property who is the duty holder if the landlord is renting via a letting agent. Plus can anybody point me to information on the duty holder and how they would asses the risk .
I have recommended to a letting agent that they test HMOs every year and normal lets 18-24months depending on the risk or say on a change of tenant after a year.
I have recommended to a letting agent that they test HMOs every year and normal lets 18-24months depending on the risk or say on a change of tenant after a year.
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grantr37
Duty Holder would be the letting Agent, who would take money for PAT testing as an add on to their fees...then get one of us to test for them....
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loop3
Yeah, eicr and pat go hand in hand. That's what I've seen over the years. I openly admit I don't like to pat test on a big scale. Commercial props need that most.
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Adam W
Well I can see one glaring error in the new PAT testing book already (or rather, ON it) - those washing machines pictured on the cover clearly aren't 'portable' so aren't covered under 'PAT' testing seeing as the P in PAT stands for 'Portable' 
What does the wording state beneath the washers - no mention of the words portable or PAT.
Using the previous CoP, this would still have been addressed under fixed appliances anyway.
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Adam W
Yeah but it's for PAT testing. If you weren't just supposed to test portable appliances they wouldn't call it Portable Appliance Testing, they'd call it something else. :disguise:
Perhaps your illustrating the point perfectly. "It's" called PAT testing erroneously.
As a point of interest, I'd estimate most (80%) of the testing I conduct is on large fixed appliances.
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oldtimer
It In Service Inspection & Testing of Electrical Equipment in other words if it aint in an EICR ie fixed wiring then its in this and it includes all equipment.
You fell into the common trap and misconception is that if it aint got a plug on it and you cannot move it around then you dont test it maybe best to have a look at the ISI&TEE COP
You fell into the common trap and misconception is that if it aint got a plug on it and you cannot move it around then you dont test it maybe best to have a look at the ISI&TEE COP
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