Help with test and inspection.

[JiMMySnoW]

you are foreign aren't you? Where are you from?

Curious fellow, I am from my mothers belly. I am English, not just foreigners know how to pull strings if that is where you are barking.

 

[JiMMySnoW]

Impossible to quote £40 max for fault finding. Sorry, but no wonder you are bankrupt with business plans like this. A bit like 'I WILL MOT your piece of she-ite car for £40, no matter what is wrong with it, I will put it right'.

No I went bankrupt when I was employed and was a good thing, because it woke me up. My business plan would work.

How many call outs do you think landlords have each year for electrics? Probably would have to do it over 5 years.

Say I manage to get 20 clients in the beginning out the prospective 300 or so I have to send leaflets to. Then they would all be paying £5 a month.

How many call outs would there be from them in a year?

But you are right it will not work, because I am not focused enough to follow through with the plan. I do not have the passion. But please the plan would work, I mean one could test the waters with more but £5 is good.

 

[VoltzElectrical]

I, too, am from my mother's belly, enough to know that you are not from these shores. It matters not, I was just trying to get a measure of you and your electrical/ experience/ educational background.

 

[VoltzElectrical]

If you're not of Pakistani origin, I will eat my feet. That's not a problem! I just like to know/ guess. I will help ANYBODY regardless of background but honesty must prevail, and be the basis of any trust.

 

[Guitarist]

Jimmy, you've messed up on this one, and with the greatest respect to you (as I'm sure you're a nice guy), you sound somewhat naive. I wish you all the best in your care work

 

[JiMMySnoW]

I, too, am from my mother's belly, enough to know that you are not from these shores. It matters not, I was just trying to get a measure of you and your electrical/ experience/ educational background.

I am English, JESUS. Praah head

am on iPhone, sorry for spell error.

 

[JiMMySnoW]

Jimmy, you've messed up on this one, and with the greatest respect to you (as I'm sure you're a nice guy), you sound somewhat naive. I wish you all the best in your care work

Well thank you for the nice, because I am. To say I messed up, where? I made a few mistakes sure, my mind is not fully on being an electrician. The job I went to today, or the whole business plan?


Multiple levels. If only you knew, I am very trusting though.
Childlike sometimes, who's not. As far as being able to follow through with a business, I have too much other stuff on my mind. Why I decide to discus here, not sure. I have enjoyed just chatting, didn't realise there would be a jury.


I am a good electrician, safe and hardworking. I am English. I am sorry if I disappoint 'VoltzElectrical,

 

[CrazyScozzese]

Getting back to the original post (which probably isn't the main point here now) I am surprised by a lot of the responses here.

A 40 amp cooker? That is maximum theoretical demand, I would be surprised if it had a draw of more than half that for any length of time long enough to cause overload. A 32 or even a 25 would be OK, even at Christmas. 32 would allow some capacity for when the sockets are in use at the same time. The regs do not say that you need a 40 amp breaker for a 40 amp domestic cooker.

2.5mm spur off of a 6mm? Who said a 32 is not allowed? You can have a 2.5 spur of of every socket on a ring with a 32. Sounds like it is less than 3m too, so it can be fused at the far end, being the sockets. Whoever said swap them to SFCU's had a good idea. Do them both and hard wire the appliances. What is wrong with that?

To be honest, if it was an EICR you could say that the cable was effectively protected by the load, being 13a or less, fused plugs.

The only issue of note that would bother me is the inaccessible junctions, done by someone who thought it is OK to do this in the first place. If I had reason to belive it was a sub-standard joint, based on other work in the installation, I would disconnect it at the sockets as someone else said, and run a spur on the surface hidden behind the kitchen units if poss.

But then back to the real point, Jay-Snow, you really should have sussed it out first with some simple testing, especially if using it as a Nicey inspection. Know your adversary, whether it is the client, the job or you.

Cr. Ed

 

[i=p/u]

This 3m fusing doesn't count in domestic it's related to buss bars ... Industrial etc.

 

[JiMMySnoW]

Getting back to the original post (which probably isn't the main point here now) I am surprised by a lot of the responses here.

A 40 amp cooker? That is maximum theoretical demand, I would be surprised if it had a draw of more than half that for any length of time long enough to cause overload. A 32 or even a 25 would be OK, even at Christmas. 32 would allow some capacity for when the sockets are in use at the same time. The regs do not say that you need a 40 amp breaker for a 40 amp domestic cooker.

2.5mm spur off of a 6mm? Who said a 32 is not allowed? You can have a 2.5 spur of of every socket on a ring with a 32. Sounds like it is less than 3m too, so it can be fused at the far end, being the sockets. Whoever said swap them to SFCU's had a good idea. Do them both and hard wire the appliances. What is wrong with that?

To be honest, if it was an EICR you could say that the cable was effectively protected by the load, being 13a or less, fused plugs.

The only issue of note that would bother me is the inaccessible junctions, done by someone who thought it is OK to do this in the first place. If I had reason to belive it was a sub-standard joint, based on other work in the installation, I would disconnect it at the sockets as someone else said, and run a spur on the surface hidden behind the kitchen units if poss.

But then back to the real point, Jay-Snow, you really should have sussed it out first with some simple testing, especially if using it as a Nicey inspection. Know your adversary, whether it is the client, the job or you.

Cr. Ed

Thank you. Yes I should of, tail has been imbetween my legs the whole day. I was trying to hit too many birds with one stone.

I should of pre-tested, I took the risk knowing that I am capable of any remedy that would of popped up. I sadly did not consider the client feelings. I did push to get this job to complete what I needed. I reassured him to a point of him being convinced that the job would have little effect towards him.

I have beat myself up about it, yes I still have to rectify and I will. Let it be known though that this potentially dangerous condition would of not been known otherwise.

I am glad though like I said, I just do not have the heart for electrics. Maybe it's been the break I have had from the electrical world. I will change the 40 amp to a 32amp, this seem like the easiest position which will not effect the client.

To have messed up would of not to cared, asked questions. The £5 a month would work if one could get the clients to sign up. I am offski, thank you for the open discussion.