Part P On-line Exam

[coatesykid]

could someone please help, I took the part p on-line exam a week ago (failed had questions about roofing and bricklaying) What guidance material is needed in order to pass this exam?

is the electricians guide to the building regulations worth buying?

 

[ezzzekiel]

its a very good book although id dosent cover a great deal of bricklaying

 

[telectrix]

nor roofing

 

[IQ Electrical]

could someone please help, I took the part p on-line exam a week ago (failed had questions about roofing and bricklaying) What guidance material is needed in order to pass this exam?

is the electricians guide to the building regulations worth buying?

I failed my roofing exam, it was full of questions on rcd's and supply characteristics...

 

[Paul.M]

Could you explain more about this exam? What courses are you doing and why are they saying you need to do an exam for for what is not aqualification?

 

[telectrix]

waS WONDERING THAT MYSELF. IS IT A SCAM to prise cash from people hoping to be part p registered by some micky mouse "exam". oops, the dreaded cps lock and the fat fingersw.......

 

[ian.settle1]

could someone please help, I took the part p on-line exam a week ago (failed had questions about roofing and bricklaying) What guidance material is needed in order to pass this exam?

is the electricians guide to the building regulations worth buying?

Whats a Part P on-line exam I always thought that Part P was a BUILDING REGULATION not a QUALIFICATION

 

[coatesykid]

part P is an understanding of the Building regulations however there is an on-line exam you have to take regardless of your qualifications or experience in order to prove you understanding of the building regs

 

[IQ Electrical]

part P is an understanding of the Building regulations however there is an on-line exam you have to take regardless of your qualifications or experience in order to prove you understanding of the building regs

It is a document, nothing else

 

[J@mes]

part P is an understanding of the Building regulations however there is an on-line exam you have to take regardless of your qualifications or experience in order to prove you understanding of the building regs

Good morning madame



This is your bank, may I have your account number, sort code and secret information please!!

 

[coatesykid]

Whats a Part P on-line exam I always thought that Part P was a BUILDING REGULATION not a QUALIFICATION

part p is split up into 9 units, if you are a qualified electrician then you have to do unit 1 only which is an on-line exam multi choice, if you are not an electrician then you have to do all 9 units (1 on-line exam and 8 paper exams) as well as some practical units.The 8 paper exams are designed to test your electrical knowledge, the on-line exam test your knowledge of the building regs, online exam has 20 Q, 4 on building regs, 8 on part p, 8 on other approved documents need 14 to pass.

 

[hasel5]

Sounds like aloud off old pee this scam exam

 

[Amp David]

Sounds like a money spinner made up qual to me. Does it have any City and Guilds reference

 

[Short Circuit]

I cant see any Part P exam either! I have never done any actual exam for Part P - like it has already been said, Part P is a document, not a qualification - can you elaborate more on the exam title or details? Its not something to do with the Home Inspections Packs or something along those lines is it?

 

[Short Circuit]

Is it the EAL Domestic Electrical Installer course ? That advertises as a Part P Course! Like everyone else here is saying, i dont think there is an exam as such to make you Part P registered! You just need to have the relevant qualifications and be assessed buy the correct bodies such as NAPIT NIC ELECSA etc

In answer to the second part of your question, I think the Electricians Guide to the Building Regs is a must!

 

[Des 56]

Are Elecsa the culprits

Part P online test - are you ready for assessment? - Voltimum UK - Electrical Installation Products and Contracting

 

[coatesykid]

its EAL Electrical Installer course it was free and is done at college, the thing is I have city and gilds 2330 level 3 and 17th edition already so do i need to do this in order to self notify through a competent person scheme?

 

[IQ Electrical]

its EAL Electrical Installer course it was free and is done at college, the thing is I have city and gilds 2330 level 3 and 17th edition already so do i need to do this in order to self notify through a competent person scheme?

The short answer is no, but you'll be asked a few building reg's questions on your technical assessment

 

[telectrix]

no . to self certify your work, you need to join elecsa or napit. there is another body but the name escapes me. they asses a major job and a minor and you pay them oodles of dosh.

 

[SMB]

could someone please help, I took the part p on-line exam a week ago (failed had questions about roofing and bricklaying) What guidance material is needed in order to pass this exam?

is the electricians guide to the building regulations worth buying?

Coateskid, I think I know the course you are talking about. The EAL Level 2 for Domestic Electrical Installers? If you got it for free then thats great. Any education is great, free education is even greater.

Without understanding a couple of parts of the 'Electricians Guide to the Building Regulations' you will not pass that exam.

To pass the EAL exam you MUST understand Table 1 and Table 2 on page 21, as well as the additional notes on page 22 and page 23. You also need to understand ALL of chapter 10.





Please don't slate me for offering this info guys, yes Part P has chaos spread all around it, however, Coateskid was asking a simple question and I hope I have typed the simple answer.

All the best.

 

[jaresquire]

"you need to join elecsa or napit. there is another body but the name escapes me" LOL
Why do people feel this way?

 

[SirKit Breaker]

This sounds a right load of bollox. Part p exam! never heard of one, and there is no need for one. Part P is just the part of the building regs that covers electrical installation in dwellings. Just like Part A covers whatever it covers and so on to Part P. I have never heard of a builder who has had to take an examination on part whatever it is that covers drains! so why is part P loked upon any differently.

If you need to know anything about any part of the building regulations, then just google the relevant part and download it. If you need something clarifying, then ring up the local planning dept, and ask.

I wish i had thought of a Part P exam first, i could have made a fortune.

Cheers.........Howard

 

[Paul.M]

Thanks to the useful link provided by Des56 all has become clear. It's like a mock driving test that you pay £30+ vat before you get assessed. Wow, if anyone is interested in getting a mick mouse certificate which dose not mean a thing towards being assessed in part of a scheme provider please feel free to send the forum you money and we will happy give you a pass with distinction because it means nothing in the real world..... Ok, if your going to be assessed just revise. No need to go through a course and an exam and please never, never never say you are part p qualified because your not.

 

[DurhamSparky]

no exam for me!! what a crock of ****!!

 

[ian.settle1]

part p is split up into 9 units, if you are a qualified electrician then you have to do unit 1 only which is an on-line exam multi choice, if you are not an electrician then you have to do all 9 units (1 on-line exam and 8 paper exams) as well as some practical units.The 8 paper exams are designed to test your electrical knowledge, the on-line exam test your knowledge of the building regs, online exam has 20 Q, 4 on building regs, 8 on part p, 8 on other approved documents need 14 to pass.

Part P is one of numerous Building Regs as is Part A, B, C etc not qualifications

Planning Portal - Approved documents

 

[ian.settle1]

Good morning madame

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This is your bank, may I have your account number, sort code and secret information please!!

How true that is, change from the email scam

 

[mydigitalhome]

I assume you are speaking about the C&G 2393-10 City & Guilds Level 3 Certificate in the Building Regulations for Electrical Installations in Dwellings which covers the items within Part P a qualification that is worthwhile for any electrician so they understand the impact of their works on building structure. Have passed this exam myself surprising how many electricians out there who have been in the industry for years fail it!

 

[IQ Electrical]

Mmm, I'll probably just struggle on without it...

 

[Des 56]

This one day course is suitable for domestic electricians with several years experience pursuing Part P registration.


The general requirements of the Building Regulations in relation to electrical installations to dwellings Inc:

1. Scope, Purpose and Structure of the Building Regulations
2. Understand notifiable and non-notifable types of building work
3. Identify relevant Approved Documents
4. Indentify the role of Building Control Services

Methods of Compliance with the 6 Parts of the Building Regulations most relevant to electrical installations in dwellings.

There we have it then,this is the part p exam that makes the training providors a few bob convincing some trainees that it makes a spark out of them



Oh if any of you are seduced by the description
Its a 1 day course at the very reasonable price of £ 180

 

[Golden_Boy]

It is a document, nothing else

Its also only a GUIDE. Installations need not adhere to it at all. You could carry out an installation to say PORTUGUESE or FRENCH standards and still be within EU laws.

 

[SMB]

Depends where your drilling the joist I reckon.

Start installing your sockets at 300mm from floor level on a new build in England and see what the building inspector has to say (whether he/she is French, Portuguese, or even Nepalese)





Perhaps its been a long day and your confusing Part P with BS7671?

 

[Paul.M]

1. Part p took this reg and others from the BS7671. Just look at any old brb or OSG.


2. Even in a new build if the home owner wants the sockets at another height that is fine, just need to make note on cert.

3. Easy to tell them apart. One has been around for that long it has had 17 up grades, hundreds of amendments and is 389 pages long. The other is a leaflet that came out in April 2005.

 

[Paul.M]

Double posted.

 

[SMB]

Hi Paul,

I was talking about new builds.

Rewires are a different matter I know. (just don't leave the installation in a less accessable state than it was before you started is the key I think?)

Sorry if you have mis-understood me. Or perhaps im wrong about the height of accessories?

I thought that notching a joist in the middle was a no-no. Thats what Part P talks about isnt it?

Im not trying to be argumentative by the way. Im just saying what I thought I understood mate. (Im on your side Paul).

All the best.

 

[martysparky]

Its also only a GUIDE. Installations need not adhere to it at all. You could carry out an installation to say PORTUGUESE or FRENCH standards and still be within EU laws.

Are you referring to The Electricians Guide To Regs or Approved document P

 

[Paul.M]

I could go into detail regarding heights and safe zones but I won't because its boring. Basically the chaps that write the building regs asked the experts, BS7671. If you compare part p to brb and ask which came first? Where did the building regs come from? That's why (specially the older sparks) get really wound up about people saying part p qualified when its been adhered to for donkey years. The world of electrics has been down a long road. For example, do you know why rcd's ate 30mA? It is because it was tested on prisoners on death row in the UK! They were given an option of go to the gallows or be tested on. Remember that next time you install one. What I'm getting at is part p is not the be all and end all. I mean I read a leaflet years ago on the highway code and I can cross the road without getting run over. I haven't got a qualification, I'm just abiding with some procedures that a government body has set out has this is how it should be done.

 

[martysparky]

I assume you are speaking about the C&G 2393-10 City & Guilds Level 3 Certificate in the Building Regulations for Electrical Installations in Dwellings which covers the items within Part P a qualification that is worthwhile for any electrician so they understand the impact of their works on building structure. Have passed this exam myself surprising how many electricians out there who have been in the industry for years fail it!

Agreed

here we go lets start a controversy

Part P includes the build regs appropriate to electrical work in a domestic environment. A lot of it common sense YES, but if you were the customer would you employ someone with qualification for Part P or with none deeming it a load of whatever you want to call it. Albeit having superior electrical knowledge in commercial, industrial electrics there are sparks with bags of experience and knowledge in these genres but would get it wrong in a domestic despite living in a house as it depends on your experience and training. No prejudice intended.

 

[IQ Electrical]

The customer won't have heard of Part P so in that respect, it will make no difference.

Also, complying with building regulations relevant to our work really isn't a difficult task in the scale of everything else we are expected to comply with so I'm not condoning another course and another exam.

 

[Paul.M]

We come across it on here. Long time served industrial sparky posts a question about putting in his own cooker. Fair enough, we tell him due to his abilitys as a professional. But other questions on here from people that have done a short course and a part p course don't know what they are supposed to know at that level of education. (and today there has been loads of it. Can't give examples but have a look and you'll find them). I blame the fast track colleges without offending them or people that have passed or on a course. The greed if people trying to make money quick, have a look on this forum how many people are looking for work. The industry itself needs to be simplified so everyone knows what a "real electrician" is (thanks Manda for that saying)

 

[martysparky]

I agree with that too IQ and having done the exam its brief TBH.

But the qualified in Part P would proudly tell the customer wouldn't they.

One question I have raised previously is installing a vented cooker hood with relation to the vent hole and proximity to the joist and structural integrity. NO one here has positively answered what is a safe distance between the two.