Who Are You Registered With?

[TPES]

Is the Elecsa rule a new one then?

No, that's always been the way, you can use Elecsa PIR's, you just can't register the PIR on there system.

 

[dixon9]

Well, they do have a PIR assessment on a seperate charge - BUT I was told that this was for those ONLY wishing to do PIR's that work for agents etc...

 

[dixon9]

No, that's always been the way, you can use Elecsa PIR's, you just can't register the PIR on there system.

Yes, I was told that anyone can download the Elecsa PIR's but you are unable to download logo ones until you have passed the full-scope assessment.

 

[derbyshirespark]

I refuse to register, can't afford to. I always tell customers I don't have it, they don't care and have never heard of part p, they still good workmanship and test certs.
Used to be with elecsa in 2008, had no problems.
If the government changes things so its affordable and easier I will register. I am fully qualified and time served and I don't have to prove it to somebody who is less qualified than me. I have proved my worth to City and Guilds.

You can all start ranting now, and call me a cowboy.

 

[TPES]

Ha ha, I'm not going to say that! But do you think the process and assessment is difficult? Just as you say they should make it easier?

 

[thekingiam]

I refuse to register, can't afford to. I always tell customers I don't have it, they don't care and have never heard of part p, they still good workmanship and test certs.
Used to be with elecsa in 2008, had no problems.
If the government changes things so its affordable and easier I will register. I am fully qualified and time served and I don't have to prove it to somebody who is less qualified than me. I have proved my worth to City and Guilds.

You can all start ranting now, and call me a cowboy.

hi ho silver!!!! like it! if we only had more people like you who said stuff it then they couldnt charge these silly amounts and bother people who just want to earn a few bucks on the weekend.
if you add up all the monney wasted on these fake site visits and fake courses ime suprised tescos havent started selling them.

 

[derbyshirespark]

What I mean by easier is, annual assessments are a pain in the arse, health & safety policy, cal cert, complaints log all needed I agree but do other trades have all this crap. What should happen is everyone show there qualifications to an organisation, if you are deemed competent with plenty of experience you get an ID card with photo on it and a unique number. Oh and should'nt have to pay no more than £50 per annum. Tell the public no card, then no electrical work sorry its illegal.

I might set it up myself who's in?

 

[derbyshirespark]

To add to that you have to sit a written & practical exam every 2 years and nothing to tricky but enough to prove you are safe and competent, if you fail your card doesn't get renewed, Until you have a further assessment. The exam itself should cost no more than £200.

Put that in Ye pipe and smoke it.

 

[thekingiam]

where do i send my monney??
hang on why not open it to some real competition i will do it for a fiver on ebay and you can pay with paypall.

oh wait there, i forgot it was set up by the government to rip electricians off by pretending to create a safer workplace but just premoting big buisenesses and even bigger back handers.

why do you have to pay so much monney per year why cant when applying for your jib card send evidence ie apprentiship, nvq3 or am2 which are all practical assesments anyway.

i am going to apply to the government for permission to set up a body which can and will garauntee safety i propose an electrician will be followed on every job by an assesor who will watch the work being done and after the job sign the work off himself.

i know what your thinking where am i going to find all those assesors, well here's the answer everyones complaining about all the forigners comming into the country and claiming benifits, well if i train all them up on a 14 week course and make them assesors then their will be more british workers on benifits than them, so no one can complain.

 

[derbyshirespark]

You'd make a great politician.

 

[baldelectrician]

I'm with SELECT (which is not the ECA as the ECA is based in England).

SELECT is the ECA of Scotland and on the whole they are probably the best of the bunch

There is no part P here, but there is the Scottish Building Standards and you need to be registered to sign off work. The only work that requires signing off are building warrant jobs (extensions, loft conversions, alterations etc)

I refuse to work for builders and as such don't carry out self certification work, although I am able to do so as part of my registration.

it would be nice if they put SELECT as an option as they have more members in Scotland than the NICEIC.

 

[andyemms]

I have just had to choose who to register with.... I have just started my new job as a Solar PV installation supervisor for a large global company, the solar PV side of the business is new as they were using MCS accredited contractors before but soon to be doing it all in house.
They already have MCS accreditation as a company but now need to be registered for the electrical side so I can sign off work and so.... I called NICEIC because they are the industry leader? I have been waiting 3 days for them to call me back. I called ELECSA and within 5 minutes the ball is rolling.
I have no time for people who want to waste my time! ELECSA were nothing short of excellent and very helpful and I will be hoping to switch the MCS to ELECSA when that is due.
I eagerly await my call from NICEIC so I can tell them where to go!
If you are with NICEIC, try giving ELECSA a call to see how it should be done. I noticed something on the website about switching for free....

 

[topquark]

I chose ELECSA, primarily from some of the feedback I've seen regarding NICEIC. Have to admit that I didn't consider NAPIT (but for no good reason really).

 

[Wully]

NICEIC Approved Contractor and SELECT.

Also registered with the Certification of Construction scheme for the Scottish Building Regs.

 

[TinyT]

Quick question. What can you do if you want to apply to one of the companys, but you dont have any jobs to show them? Might have a domestic new build job coming up, but oviously need to supply a cert? Help please!

 

[shanky887614]

im on a napit sponserd course

i have no idea how long it will go on for, we just did c+g 2330 lvl2 and plumbing lvl1 as part of the course

next term it is going to be c+g 2330 lvl3 and from then on we wont know till the end of the year


im probably going to have to go with napit, you dont bite the hand that feeds you, i do admit that my situation is differnet to most people who have done/doing the same course's as me

 

[malcbriggs]

I have been with ELECSA for the past 5 years, although I think it is pointless, since I have obtained a proper Electrical apprentiship(JIB 5 years and then 2 years approved) plus HNC, degree, numerouse qualifications and 42 years in the Electrical/Electronics field

 

[getgraham]

I am with Elecsa, I was with NICEIC last year and would say their assessments were very similar Neither would let you in if your inspection and testing wasn't up to par. Both are happy to let your first assessment be at home/friends. Both have similar ways of logging Part P jobs online.

I changed to Elecsa as I spoke to another spark who was with them and he reckoned that it had no effect on his business.

Elecsa are definately more friendly to their members. I always found NICEIC to be more distant, even if you visited their stand at a show and said you were a member.

It's up to Elecsa members to raise the Elecsa profile and explain that you don't have to be NICEIC to be Part P.

Most potential customers want a good price and service and couldn't care less who you're with.

Don't get me wrong - I have nothing against NICEIC, they do some brilliant books and DVD's.

For me (sole trader) I prefer the friendly approach of Elecsa and slightly cheaper fees.

 

[cymroaur]

Only my first year registered. Got in touch with all of them to ask about registration and assesment. Two didn't bother to reply, one said "see our website", so I went with ELECSA due to them actually replying and being helpful (and patient) when I phoned for more information. Since registering they're still helpful, not just a rouse to get me onboard!

 

[Flyingsparks]

Been an NICEIC approved contractor for over 20 years - was only them and ECA. Just stuck with them because I am used to the way they work. The guy that formed Napit used to be a lecturer at the local college in those days - he has done very well for himself since then.