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HA HA it certainly did. RIP Bob Grant.View attachment 42307
It always worked for him!
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HA HA it certainly did. RIP Bob Grant.View attachment 42307
It always worked for him!
these are the 221 style.Heard some bad things about the quality of these connectors, with some failures.
Are they the older lever type 222 ? Apparently the copyright expired on the design so there are loads of copies now, of varying quality.
I'm using the new compact lever type 221 and they are brilliant.
I use this place as the cheapest I have found so far.
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Happyhippydad your comments are duly noted and also informative. In these times of covering ones back we can lose site of a little common sense. I certify/test my work and would not put others at risk. I do try things out.....just try it out and see...does it work, is it a secure connection or not? As for nulling Wago testing, I disagree. After using push fit connectors for over 7 years now you get to learn any limitations from using different brands/products you use. The problem now is because they are so quick to use users might overlook to check they are secure.Sorry chap, but I can't believe any spark would try and put 2 conductors into one wago hole. It is designed for one conductor and the amount of pressure exerted on the conductor will have gone through many tests so that it could be deemed safe. To put 2 conductors is just crazy and would completely null the validity of all testing wago has done.
I don't think your 'pull' test quite ranks with the £50,000 wago spent on their tests.
Trying to stay polite (through gritted teeth)!
In my early experiences with Wagos, I did try the two conductors in one hole (no smutty remarks please), non twisted and one or other conductor would withdraw prematurely . I then became more experienced and found twisting two conductors together gave some satisfaction.
Finally, as I grew in experience I realised one could have more fun when using Wago XL boxes, and you could have multiple pleasures.
Happyhippydad your comments are duly noted and also informative. In these times of covering ones back we can lose site of a little common sense. I certify/test my work and would not put others at risk. I do try things out.....just try it out and see...does it work, is it a secure connection or not? As for nulling Wago testing, I disagree. After using push fit connectors for over 7 years now you get to learn any limitations from using different brands/products you use. The problem now is because they are so quick to use users might overlook to check they are secure.
That is exactly why scientific processes exist, because there are limitations of learning by gaining experience over a period of time. Not every problem becomes clear in time, to use a really extreme example the building regs were watered down over long periods of people trying things in small steps, eventually we were faced with that terrible incident last year in the tower block. Basically they skipped the scientific testing process because common sense told them what they were doing was similar and it looked ok in the end.After using push fit connectors for over 7 years now you get to learn any limitations
Most I think all.Now I think we need the ‘Dirty boy’ button if not just for most of @SWD s remarks!
Not using these connections and watching the video if 1.0mm was used rather than 1.5mm it would have fitted better you could see that what do the manufacturers say regarding two in one hole.That is exactly why scientific processes exist, because there are limitations of learning by gaining experience over a period of time. Not every problem becomes clear in time, to use a really extreme example the building regs were watered down over long periods of people trying things in small steps, eventually we were faced with that terrible incident last year in the tower block. Basically they skipped the scientific testing process because common sense told them what they were doing was similar and it looked ok in the end.
Not saying to conductors in one hole will cause a fire like that, but it's little decisions that can build up.
Not using these connections and watching the video if 1.0mm was used rather than 1.5mm it would have fitted better you could see that what do the manufacturers say regarding two in one hole.
I thought it was money related, not common sense.That is exactly why scientific processes exist, because there are limitations of learning by gaining experience over a period of time. Not every problem becomes clear in time, to use a really extreme example the building regs were watered down over long periods of people trying things in small steps, eventually we were faced with that terrible incident last year in the tower block. Basically they skipped the scientific testing process because common sense told them what they were doing was similar and it looked ok in the end.
Not saying to conductors in one hole will cause a fire like that, but it's little decisions that can build up.
Here's a copy - it will be a 3A fuseNo fuse for the fan! Xpelair's data sheet for the DX100T is less than helpful, since it only shows a wiring diagram for a DX100, but it does show a fuse after the isolator, although it doesn't give a rating for said fuse.
Hopefully, the instruction sheet in the box with the fan is a bit more useful.
Which is the ONLY way an isolator for a timer fan should be wired. Triple pole isolators are only suitable for use adjacent to in line fans in lofts, etc., in addition to the isolator in the bathroom or immediately outside of it.
Isn't the 3 pole isolator in the 3 core from the light to the fan for isolation for maintenance purposes, switching it off wont effect the light, or is that wrong? See where you are coming from now, better to fit an unswitched spur to avoid an idiot switching it OFF, crikey I'm confused now.Because using a FCU before the fan/light circuit provides the 3A fuse required by the fan manufacturer's instructions. The TP isolator does not provide a fuse.
Also helps prevent idiots turning off the fan permanently, since no fan, then no light either.
Because using a FCU before the fan/light circuit provides the 3A fuse required by the fan manufacturer's instructions. The TP isolator does not provide a fuse.
Also helps prevent idiots turning off the fan permanently, since no fan, then no light either.
No, your right Pete you only want to isolate the fan.Isn't the 3 pole isolator in the 3 core from the light to the fan for isolation for maintenance purposes, switching it off wont effect the light, or is that wrong? See where you are coming from now, better to fit an unswitched spur to avoid an idiot switching it OFF, crikey I'm confused now.
I first time to heard that different brands mix togetherI doubt prof stephen hawking pondered this before his death. So the forum will decide....
Is it permissable to mix and match different makes of push fit connectors
Ie wago and them other ones by ideal as shown below and put them in the same wago box or other similar mf enclosure..
Even if not against the regs...is it a mortal sin?
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I heard it 3 years ago.I first time to heard that different brands mix together
I like giving old threads a 'like'..........along with a 'deleted member' ?I heard it 3 years ago.
Agree with the first bit but I have used wire strippers for 50 years, quicker , easier and do not nick the internal insulation or the conductor so be silly not to use them.I certainly would never do that. It doesn't take many brain cells to imagine that there is a high chance of a poor quality connection doing this, especially with solid core conductors as the dipstick in the video has done.
On a side note, anybody using wire strippers isn't a proper sparks
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