Cleating to concrete posts?

[uksparks]

Hi,

I was meant to be having a 600mm trench dug all the way down the garden but the customer doesn't want to wreck his new lawn now, I did say put it in before y lay the lawn but he wouldn't listen.

anway, to cut a long storey short, he said can I cleat it to the bottom of the fence.

my ugliest thoughts are no, not really, you shouldn't really fix to non or semi permed structures like that really.

whats your thoughts? I suppose if it's cleated on every post, it's going to be fairly well fixes, it's going to be covered in bark chipping a then at the bottom.

 

[Dave OCD]

Re: Clearing to concrete posts?

In the circumstances although it's a compromise I think it should be ok, or could a shallow trench be excavated immediately beside the run of fencing ?

 

[telectrix]

Re: Clearing to concrete posts?

Hi,

I was meant to be having a 600mm trench dug all the way down the garden but the customer doesn't want to wreck his new lawn now, I did say put it in before y lay the lawn but he wouldn't listen.

anway, to cut a long storey short, he said can I cleat it to the bottom of the fence.

my ugliest thoughts are no, not really, you shouldn't really fix to non or semi permed structures like that really.

whats your thoughts? I suppose if it's cleated on every post, it's going to be fairly well fixes, it's going to be covered in bark chipping a then at the bottom.

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barking mad.

 

[uksparks]

Re: Clearing to concrete posts?

In the circumstances although it's a compromise I think it should be ok, or could a shallow trench be excavated immediately beside the run of fencing ?

Well, you could but I'd rather do the job properly as it will only surface of not deep enough.

 

[Dave OCD]

Re: Clearing to concrete posts?

Not if it was also in a duct with some concrete on top it wouldn't.

 

[uksparks]

Re: Clearing to concrete posts?

Not if it was also in a duct with some concrete on top it wouldn't.

Ill put the idea to him.

 

[davesparks]

Re: Clearing to concrete posts?

Get it moled.

Or else just clip it to the fence.
Don't try drilling into those prestressed posts though, it'll end in tears!

 

[Deleted member 9648]

Re: Clearing to concrete posts?

Concrete fence posts are inclined to snap off in high winds,drilling them for cleating will only increase the likelyhood of that.Make sure you explain that to the client and that you take no responsibility for weakened posts breaking in future.

 

[uksparks]

Re: Clearing to concrete posts?

It was something I thought, how much does the mole option cost do you think?

 

[uksparks]

Re: Clearing to concrete posts?

Get it moled.

Or else just clip it to the fence.
Don't try drilling into those prestressed posts though, it'll end in tears!

I agree, they seem a bit fragile if you get me.

 

[Marvo]

Re: Clearing to concrete posts?

As pointed out drilling those posts isn't ideal. I don't see any reason you can't dig a normal trench along the fence line TBH. It shouldn't wreck the lawn if you're careful and you can always rake any stray soil afterwards.

 

[PEG]

Re: Clearing to concrete posts?

Hi fella,if your customer did not listen to your initial advice,why would he listen to any further ideas?...:49:

....Anywho...there are other ways to affix conduit,duct or SWA to post & panel. Probably best not to drill the posts,but i have drilled the panels,in the past,an inch up or down from the center line,a foot in from the ends. I made cable/conduit clamps up from Stauff hydraulic mounts.which have two plastic half shells for clamping,and a steel back plate,you can fix threaded rod to.

You could make up "C" clamps,for your side of the posts,and i have also used my own method,where access or tinkering the other side is restricted. If you make up clip or clamp bases with 20mm of M6 threaded rod protruding,you can drill inch deep holes,and fix with Hilti cavity tie resin. This,or similar,is very durable,and maintains the integrity of the drilled item.

I will be honest,if he had ignored advice from myself,having asked for it...i would be telling him to get busy with a wind-up extension lead,and wish him a good night :bobby:

 

[SPARTYKUS]

Re: Clearing to concrete posts?

If you drill those posts you will either

1. Hit a piece of steel
2. Hit a piece of steel
3. Ruin the post
4. Hit a piece of steel:dizzy2:

 

[uksparks]

Re: Clearing to concrete posts?

Ok so I can't cleat it to the posts and I can't just lay in on the ground not secured...

Looks ms like it will have to be a trench.

 

[GMES]

Re: Clearing to concrete posts?

Get yourself some Sky Hooks, job sorted!!!!

 

[davesparks]

Re: Clearing to concrete posts?

Cleat it to the fence

 

[SPARTYKUS]

Re: Clearing to concrete posts?

Use the new wireless cabling system

 

[uksparks]

Re: Clearing to concrete posts?

He said he will just trap it under the edge of the fence, I said no way, I said do it properly or find someone else... Ill speak to him again later.

 

[Paul.M]

Re: Clearing to concrete posts?

When installing cu, sockets and switches in a pre-fab concrete garage I stick a bit of ply wood to the wall using no-nails and fix to that. Outside and under bark chip???? erm not too sure the wood would last that long? Tanalised timber might be an option?

 

[uksparks]

Re: Clearing to concrete posts?

I just dont trust no nails, its rubbish, I certainly wouldnt stick anything together with it or rely on it for a permanent fix.