Could be getting sacked, got pictures, please advise

[YoungBart]

What's the problem, everything would have worked everyone happy.

Gotta be a wind up, Surley.... Please say it's a wind up :6:

 

[alarm man]

the work aside,which is poor,getting sacked,now that depends,is this the sort of work which has been allowed in the past without anyone pulling it up,can you prove it,if so it could be seen as company practice,not that any company would ever admit to it,but if you can prove that this work is the norm for the company they have no grounds to sack you,it could be an unfair dissmisal case.but if the company normally do a decent standard of work then this could be seen as unaceptable work and you could be sacked tho only id say if deemed to be dangerous,then again it could come down to training are you qualified do the company know if you have any skills issues that need to be addressed(they will now) have you asked,its more than just one crap job and your out unless you have been warned before

 

[Robinson]

WOW. Its socking and sad. I do in some way feel for this guy because he obviously actually has no clue and thats hard. How did you get your job?, have you taken any form of qualifications/Training?. If by a miracle you keep your job , i would as stated take all the Frank open opinions here on the chin. get back to the forum start learning start talking. Speak to your boss and ask if there is a experienced sparks you could work alongside until you have gained the experiences to undertake various forms of electrical installations. And suggest to your boss you would like to have a pay cut to apprentice rate as you value the job and want experience.....AND Get to college!. again if needed. Maybe just maybe they might see your honest evaluation of your own skills and see your willing but still not yet able...


ALL BEST.

 

[Jimmy Boy]

Well if he is getting the elbow might as well tell us the Roy Rogers company he works for then we can do them over on the net lol
J

 

[sedgy34]

The op should put it in his portfolio :cowboy:
Even rushing I could do a bit better than that lol your doing easy work and you are out of your ddepth you talk about mitre ing sheathing on your own jobs too!!! hahaha

 

[mackers]

:nonod:

 

[Diddy]

Right I have just shown the misses this thread including pictures and she has stated that if you had left her kitchen in this state she would have punched you square on the chin. If this is a wind up then fair play you have got us all talking. NO WAY I could ever leave a job even remotely looking like that. Where is the pride ? Your supposed to be a tradesman ffs !!! Really you got to take a long at yourself. I would rather keep clients waiting and take the flak all day every day. You have got to use your voice and inform your bosses how long you NEED to do the job not how long they want to give you. If you can negotiate then you walk...simples. Get yourself another start and walk away. Or the lesser of evils let them sack you for being too slow or whatever. Neat and slow > Than fast and rough. What is wrong apart from the screw ? Really ? Honestly ? Go read the regs - Go read the on site guide - Try to remember what happened during your apprenticeship if you went through a "proper one e". Sorry mate if that all sounds harsh but if my misses didnt smack you on the chin for doing that to our kitchen the I bloody well would have. Infact if I was your guv I would probably have to take a few deep breaths to prevent myself from dishing out a slap lol.

 

[keniff]

Can someone upload the pics I can't see them on my computer or phone and am intrigued!

 

[Jimmy Boy]

Right I have just shown the misses this thread including pictures and she has stated that if you had left her kitchen in this state she would have punched you square on the chin. If this is a wind up then fair play you have got us all talking. NO WAY I could ever leave a job even remotely looking like that. Where is the pride ? Your supposed to be a tradesman ffs !!! Really you got to take a long at yourself. I would rather keep clients waiting and take the flak all day every day. You have got to use your voice and inform your bosses how long you NEED to do the job not how long they want to give you. If you can negotiate then you walk...simples. Get yourself another start and walk away. Or the lesser of evils let them sack you for being too slow or whatever. Neat and slow > Than fast and rough. What is wrong apart from the screw ? Really ? Honestly ? Go read the regs - Go read the on site guide - Try to remember what happened during your apprenticeship if you went through a "proper one e". Sorry mate if that all sounds harsh but if my misses didnt smack you on the chin for doing that to our kitchen the I bloody well would have. Infact if I was your guv I would probably have to take a few deep breaths to prevent myself from dishing out a slap lol.

It may Beer O'Clock but not lets resort to threats of violence 'eh ? see how a Troll can drag a forum down ? should have been locked a long while ago.
J

 

[Diddy]

It may Beer O'Clock but not lets resort to threats of violence 'eh ? see how a Troll can drag a forum down ? should have been locked a long while ago.
J

I know mate im not really threatening anyone lol. Its really just a joke reply to what is a joke thread. My misses stands by her comments though lmao. She's about 5ft1in and 9.5 stone....not to be messed with nor underestimated. Sorry if I have made anyone feel "intimidated" with the reference to violence lol. Think some people really need to get a grip beginning with the op.

 

[Jimmy Boy]

No drama I am sure she can dish it out when needed, as we all can, but I just hate threads like this where the OP is so obviously an Oxygen thief, and yet we all get wound up and make us all look like knuckle dragger's

J

 

[Darkwood]

Well this thread is still going lol.... i think for once the Mods have let us express our full opinions due to the sheer poor standard of work..... Kinda like a 'let them feed time'...... im shocked its still going, i assume its our reward for been nice under tempting circumstances a lately.. but you got to admit this thread has zero defense to all the harsh comments it has received ..... but im still betting its getting closed soon

 

[Marvo]

The thread can stay open as long as it stays civil and constructive. The thing that worries me is how short the list was that the supervisor complained about. The standard of work is very poor even by standards of what I see here in Africa, I'm just glad it's not my house.

 

[Silly Sausage]

Archly I feel a bit sad if he's got kids don't want to see anyone loose there jobs but makes you wonder what type of apprenticeship has he had

Kids, so have I, me and our lass struggle, but that's no excuse.
There are certain standards of workmanship, one has to earn one's employment.
The uni-celled brain life form that installed that, is taking a job that dozens, if not 100s of skilled electricians, who are equally desperate for the wages, could do an infinitely better job in their sleep.
May as well do away with training, education, interviews etc...whoever turns up first gets the job.

 

[spark 68]

Kids, so have I, me and our lass struggle, but that's no excuse.
There are certain standards of workmanship, one has to earn one's employment.
The uni-celled brain life form that installed that, is taking a job that dozens, if not 100s of skilled electricians, who are equally desperate for the wages, could do an infinitely better job in their sleep.
May as well do away with training, education, interviews etc...whoever turns up first gets the job.

The thing is Archy, these type of jobs usually pay poorly, pile on unrealistic time limits and are basically slave driven, and no skilled person in their right mind would want to work under these conditions, or at least not for long.

Iam in no way excusing the 'poor workmanship' which is on display here in all it's 'glory'.

The other point here is that the OP cannot see what is wrong with it, other than a screw through the capping.... there really is no answer is there.

Originally Posted by davrejonas
What's the problem, everything would have worked everyone happy.


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[ackbarthestar]

Well that was hard work - reading all those posts....

I have worked for companies like this in the past, but no more thank goodness. Young 'apprentices' get promoted before they have developed the speed with technique.

It is possible to do two kitchen refurbs in a day and leave them in a respectable state, so you can go home and say well that was a hard day but I wish they didn't have to cover it up with plaster....

So I would say that the OP hasn't the experience to work this fast and his manager hasn't the experience to recognize that or he considers that his commission more important than quality .

If you, the OP, needs a defense then show your MD these posts.....

 

[Silly Sausage]

The thing is Archy, these type of jobs usually pay poorly, pile on unrealistic time limits and are basically slave driven, and no skilled person in their right mind would want to work under these conditions, or at least not for long.

Iam in no way excusing the 'poor workmanship' which is on display here in all it's 'glory'.

The other point here is that the OP cannot see what is wrong with it, other than a screw through the capping.... there really is no answer is there.

1st paragraph, I appreciate what you're saying, there is something inherently wrong there...this will descend into a heavy employment/political discussion if we're not careful!, time for bed.

it's a wind up from the Tilers Forum, Dan will know!

 

[Marvo]

I see some people are having problems viewing the photos so I've attached them. Please keep replies constructive and civil. Thanks.

 

[Darkwood]

i got a feeling except your post ackbar none of the others will do him any favours

 

[ackbarthestar]

i got a feeling except your post ackbar none of the others will do him any favours

I'm not condoning it, but trying to work out the rational for such work. It used to be the smaller companies. You'd work hard and fast and the work had to be right otherwise it was goodnight. It appears now that profit margin is all and, as someone mentioned earlier, pride counts for nothing.

 

[Geordie Spark]

Dear God !!!!!

Wor Lass could do a tidier job than that & she's a Pikey !!!

 

[Octopus]

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Shame theres not a picture showing the walls totally so we can see if, and where, the safe zones are.

Makes me wonder if this is a set up from a training centre showing exactly how not to do it.

 

[timbobelfast]

OP, I would change the title to ..... Should be getting sacked.........

I have a squad of Afghanis who could pull off a better job than that, even with the limited materials we have.

 

[keniff]

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Thanks for doing the pics. Is it just me or is this blatantly a wind up? It looks like old rubber cable. Thing is it has to have existed somewhere! But I think op is having a laugh, it's not the 1st of April yet though

 

[Guitarist]

Looks like red/black insulation to me, so definitely an old install!
Was good to get everyone talking tho

 

[RISElectrical]

If it were me there wouldn't be a meeting mate, you'd just be up the road, no excuses and no chance to defend yourself or offer explanation.

Its touch and go whether you would be paid for it also as I would have to pay for someone to go put it right, sounds harsh but that really is appalling workmanship

 

[dingledong]

i.ve seen worse !!!!! i'll send some pics of my rewires

 

[drew35]

Anyone doing work to that standard should have a bucket of quick setting cement sitting there ready to cover it over asap!

 

[Jedge]

On a positive note the OP may take all the feedback on board and learn from this, and leave the trade. (Please!)

 

[Nik_lamb]

Oh WOW that is a shambles!!!! Was you working on your own???...........and in the dark?

 

[Midwest]

I think a moderator should close this thread. Come on guys, its a wind up. Ain't that against the rules? :66:

 

[Rockingit]

Haven't read the entire thread..... but something about If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen??

If this isn't a windup, then sorry OP, you deserve your P45.

R.

 

[topcat]

If its not a wind up then I would give a P45

 

[pencilpusher]

Wind up!

 

[mickys86]

I think a moderator should close this thread. Come on guys, its a wind up. Ain't that against the rules? :66:

Against the rules or not, wind up or not, was a good laugh. even if the end result is seriously dangerous!!

 

[redcbr]

This must be a wind up!!

 

[axel132132]

Crazy to think my boss sacked me for being "immature" at someone business... Business being his BEST MATES lol and guy i was working with told my boss i wasnt being immature..

PURE SET UP

But wish it was for bad work least it would have been justified >.>.. Well myb not i like to think my work is neat and tidy

 

[Amp David]

I think that his employer is being quite fair even having a meeting regards his poor work.

I'd of sacked him on the spot!

 

[Dave 85]

I cant see the problem with it. Its neater than most of my work. If it works it works. Long as the cheque clears before the gaff burns down its all gravy.

 

[Farmelectrics]

nowb you are winding up davey hope so