EICR remedial work

[Jaxo]

Have been handed a nice job today... remedial work in a failed EICR :-( ... just a few things on it are not necessarily things I would have included/ coded on the report if I had dont it myself :-?

Can not locate earth electrode so therefor cannot deem it to be safe C2 (... My reakoning is if you are getting a satisfactory earth fault loop reading and can confirm its not from gas/ water pipes etc then surely that has deemed it to be safe already),. whats others opinions on this? .. could be tape, plate etc and not necessarily a rod as such... In a terraced house with the front door opening onto the street .. I dont exactly want to start installing a new rod due to gas/ water pipes, and underground cables etc....


8.5 shower fused on 30A fuse... C1,.. yes technically thats about 36 amps but if its not blowing the fuse its not exactly dangerious... C3 IMO

RCD protection required on circuits 1,2,3,4 & 5 as there are pvc/pvc burried in walls less than 50mm deep C1... Again C3 imo.. The installation is only approx 10 years and wired to 16th spec...

Whats your opinions on these observations?

 

[telectrix]

agree with you. looks like the guy done the report was fishing for work. be concerned about the earthing though. make sure you get a Ze with all parallel paths dissed.

 

[tony mc]

Must say I agree with what your saying what is the RA on the results ?

 

[wozz]

1 yes I would want to see what is actually providing the earth for the installation. How is Ze being measured?

2 in reality will cause not a great deal of problems. Out of interest what type of fuse you on about?

3 erm this is a TT system isn't there a rcd already?

 

[Jaxo]

He`s got 0.31 Ω .... I`m Assuming he hasnt removed the main protective bonding conductors before carrying out this test .... or wondering if it even is a TT installation at all (All I have is the EICR and I`m due to start remedial work tomorrow)..

Another observation I have just noticed is "Earth connection required at hotpress as floating cables" C2 .. if I`m upgrading to 17th edition this will be irrelevent anyway

 

[telectrix]

possible it's been pme'd. check the Ze with MEC dissed. then you have a starting point.

 

[Jaxo]

1 yes I would want to see what is actually providing the earth for the installation. How is Ze being measured?

2 in reality will cause not a great deal of problems. Out of interest what type of fuse you on about?

3 erm this is a TT system isn't there a rcd already?

1/ Earth loop test

2/ its a 1361

3/ yes, its a TT system so there should be a 100mA RCD for fault protection... but he has on the report circuits need rcd as cables buried in walls less than 50mm...

 

[Jaxo]

possible it's been pme'd. check the Ze with MEC dissed. then you have a starting point.

I dont really know what im in for until tomorrow when I arrive at the job... hopefully it wont be as bad as it looks from this report

 

[telectrix]

if itg was installed prior to 2008, then there was no requirement for RCDs on buried cables.

 

[Jaxo]

Exactly mate... but he should have on the report that there is no 100mA RCD for fault protection,.. being a TT system (or is it :lol: ... I`ll know tomorrow )