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How long would the forum ban be for (just curious)?
Until the day they could persuade @Pete999 that Electrical Trainee courses are better than a 5 year apprenticeship
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How long would the forum ban be for (just curious)?
I read the ones from the punters having a bitch, its far more entertaining.......Never don’t you read these threads @SWD!
There are 4 available here.I just checked this link, and apparently the book is out of stock. Have you all been buying a copy?
Pointless joints all over the circuit. Poor design. Would much prefer ring or normal radial. As stated, anything is dangerous when interfered with by non competent persons there is absolutely no need to work at a circuit when you don't have a clue what your doing, otherwise they are perfectly acceptable and safe... yes, there is something wrong with ring circuits - as I stated in my post.
Why would you never ever install a tree circuit?
Might have been covered in week 4 of the 5 week course.........It seems fairly conclusive that the OP is on his own with this one!
I’m still interested in what a tree circuit is?
Not trueThe RFC is an artefact of materials shortage during WWII
It was, after the war and to keep costs don for the rebuilding program,Not true
Not true.It was, after the war and to keep costs don for the rebuilding program
I’d like to know if anyone else here refuses to install ring circuits in domestic premises.
For me it’s either a 20a radial / tree circuit with 2.5mm, or a 32 radial / tree circuit with 4.0mm.
Frankly I’m tired of finding broken ring circuits on 32a CB’s, as well as mismatches on end to end tests. It drives me nuts on jobs that should be simple.
I wish we would get rid of this ridiculous practice here in the UK.
I know some of you will say there’s nothing wrong with it when it’s properly installed and tested, but inevitably at some point in the future someone will come along and disconnect a conductor unknowingly while changing outlets on the circuit.
Testing is more complicated, and diagnosing faults on a ring also.
-Does that translate in to-I Tee.....Common on diy and builder installs.
When was electrikery invented and rolled out and I believe they had square built houses a long time before that........anway 2.5mm is way easier to play with whether you are running/stripping/connecting than big 4mm or 6mm radials.
I thought houses were built square to facilitate ring circuits weren't they?
I thought houses were built square to facilitate ring circuits weren't they?
You should have told him to F Off back home if its so perfect back in Hungary.I've heard it all now
Rings are dangerous lol
I always remember talking to a builder from Hungary who was slating the way we build houses in the UK
He really disliked building control.....
(Edited by staff, please respect forum rules, expletive removed).
We're leaving Europe and their radials long live the ringThat is exactly my point. The moment you walk out of the door, someone will mess with that ring circuit in time
We're leaving Europe and their radials long live the ring
corrected that for you mate.Unless you propose floating the U.K of into the Atlantic a few thousand miles, we won't be leaving Europe.
There is howeveragoodnext to no chance we will be leaving the E.U.
Just to add another little angle, anyone done 4mm rings where insulation or circuit length is a bit of a concern ? I did it in a large kitchen a year or so ago. If anything [with 35mm boxes] I think the stranded 4mm is just as easy to terminate.
What is a tree circuit? ??Absolutely nothing wrong with a ring circuit. I would never install a 'tree's circuit for sockets. Ever.
Dark or Milk, Chocolate block? Question, what's a Ryanair Sparks?Here in Spain it is the norm to do Spider wiring !! Each socket goes back to a large box where there is a large Chocolate Block ! (even lighting circuits) This Mickey Mouse system is used around Europe, The U.K. has the BEST system in the world ! I have seen so many Melted sockets here where someone has tried to do a radial (Ryanair sparks?) Ring Circuit, Superior !
Dark or Milk, Chocolate block? Question, what's a Ryanair Sparks?
I did but never the cheapo airlines, anyway what's that got to do with my question, trying to win some points?Mint Chocolate. Thought you were well travelled lol
Especially when lots of people aren't sure on how to test them and if they do know how to interoperate any results.HARD HAT ON
A Ring Final is intrinsically unsafe in that it can be inadvertently, damaged in such a manner as to overload the cable on the undamaged leg.
There is no denying or getting away from this FACT.
They are an anachronism, a stop gap belonging to a bygone era.
The simplest test, and one rings fail, is;-
IF THEY DIDN'T EXIST WOULD THEY BE INTRODUCED TODAY?
No sane person would answer yes.
They offer very little advantage over Radials yet, as stated, are intrinsically unsafe.
pete. every time i see one of your posts, reminds me of this title:I did but never the cheapo airlines, anyway what's that got to do with my question, trying to win some points?
Sure being able to test one allows us to feel superior.Especially when lots of people aren't sure on how to test them and if they do know how to interoperate any results.
In what way Tel, Nice, Nasty or whatpete. every time i see one of your posts, reminds me of this title:
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