NICEIC Certification Scheme NICEIC assessment query

[djelectric]

I have got my domestic installer assessment on Tuesday and have been doing some work over the weekend for the guy to assess. It's 5 mins from my house as they request that the job be within 30 mins distance. Most other jobs I've done (that are adequate to be assess on) are over an hours drive away so this worked out ideal..

Anyway, they want to see either a CU change, a re-wire or a new circuit. I've installed a new outside circuit, fed from a new RCBO, feeding a single socket outlet, 2 switched lights and 1 PIR switched light.

Now that I have come to test and certificate it I'm now having second thoughts about this being enough for them to assess as the lighting side of the circuit is fed via a fused spur..

Am I correct in thinking that I would only fill out an EIC for the socket outlet and everything after the spur a minor works cert?

Or do I put both onto the EIC separately?

Panicking now, I've left this way too late!!

 

[telectrix]

you fill out a EIC to cover all the work that you have done.

 

[Octopus]

Why the NICEIC ?

 

[Leesparkykent]

Why the NICEIC ?

Most recognised I bet.

 

[Octopus]

Most recognised I bet.

For DI does anyone really care? or even know about Part P?

 

[Leesparkykent]

For DI does anyone really care? or even know about Part P?

I suppose but on the rare occasions I have been asked the customer normally asks if im NIC registered not about part P.

 

[uksparks]

I have to admit nobody has really ever asked me about part p or what it is.

when I get my new can in a week or two I'm probably not putting the part p logo back on the van

 

[djelectric]

Why the NICEIC ?

Purely because I have been offered pretty much full time sub contracting work by someone if I get registered with them. He has it all over his website/van/cards etc. Plus they're highly recognised. They charge an arm and a leg though!

 

[uksparks]

I don't understand why people say the NICEIC cost so much? They don't cost any more than any other scheme? or am i totally missing something here?

Interestingly I noticed on here someone mention CDM Records for their NICEIC assessment, this is not something that has ever cropped up with me and as i have another NICEIC AC Assessment in a couple of weeks, id be interested to know about the CDM and if i need to keep records as such.

 

[Octopus]

Purely because I have been offered pretty much full time sub contracting work by someone if I get registered with them. He has it all over his website/van/cards etc. Plus they're highly recognised. They charge an arm and a leg though!

Makes good business sense.... not a bad reason...... I'm with Stroma, purely so I can register notifiable work, I don't sub, nor want to so its horses for courses

 

[Leesparkykent]

I don't understand why people say the NICEIC cost so much? They don't cost any more than any other scheme? or am i totally missing something here?

Interestingly I noticed on here someone mention CDM Records for their NICEIC assessment, this is not something that has ever cropped up with me and as i have another NICEIC AC Assessment in a couple of weeks, id be interested to know about the CDM and if i need to keep records as such.

Being part of a scam shouldn't really cost you anything as the cost should be spread out and passed on to your customers.CDM is law and from April 2015 it now includes domestic. Hightower posted a link to an app which only takes a few mins to fill out.

 

[Octopus]

Being part of a scam shouldn't really cost you anything as the cost should be spread out and passed on to your customers.CDM is law and from April 2015 it now includes domestic. Hightower posted a link to an app which only takes a few mins to fill out.

Precisely.

I charge £10.00 for notifications ..... so I'm happy!

 

[Leesparkykent]

Precisely.

I charge £10.00 for notifications ..... so I'm happy!

28/29 notifications and you've recovered the cost....happy days

 

[Risteard]

as i have another NICEIC AC Assessment in a couple of weeks, id be interested to know about the CDM and if i need to keep records as such.

There's only Approved Contractor here, and I had an assessment recently and can't say that CDM Regs really came into it. Although you should remember that there is a legal duty to comply with them.

 

[Octopus]

28/29 notifications and you've recovered the cost....happy days 

Better than the 49 it would take with Elecsa!

 

[Midwest]

Interestingly I noticed on here someone mention CDM Records for their NICEIC assessment, this is not something that has ever cropped up with me and as i have another NICEIC AC Assessment in a couple of weeks, id be interested to know about the CDM and if i need to keep records as such.

You could always do the NIC on-line CDM course, to bump up their profits, and then flash the pass certificate to your assessor!

 

[Leesparkykent]

You could always do the NIC on-line CDM course, to bump up their profits, and then flash the pass certificate to your assessor!

http://www.voltimum.co.uk/articles/...m-course-following-changes-safety-regulations I particularly like the second review lol

 

[Midwest]

NICEIC launches an online CDM course following changes to the safety regulations | Voltimum UK I particularly like the second review lol

Yep, think I'll just keep with the App, even though I can't print anything off. Just wing it!

 

[uksparks]

You could always do the NIC on-line CDM course, to bump up their profits, and then flash the pass certificate to your assessor!

You must have been reading my mind!

i charge for every certificate and also for notifications, 100% markup.

 

[Pete999]

I have got my domestic installer assessment on Tuesday and have been doing some work over the weekend for the guy to assess. It's 5 mins from my house as they request that the job be within 30 mins distance. Most other jobs I've done (that are adequate to be assess on) are over an hours drive away so this worked out ideal..

Anyway, they want to see either a CU change, a re-wire or a new circuit. I've installed a new outside circuit, fed from a new RCBO, feeding a single socket outlet, 2 switched lights and 1 PIR switched light.

Now that I have come to test and certificate it I'm now having second thoughts about this being enough for them to assess as the lighting side of the circuit is fed via a fused spur..

Am I correct in thinking that I would only fill out an EIC for the socket outlet and everything after the spur a minor works cert?

Or do I put both onto the EIC separately?

Panicking now, I've left this way too late!!

Why did only put one circuit in? why not one for the socket and one for the lighting, could be a sign of bad planning at the design stage.

 

[djelectric]

Why did only put one circuit in? why not one for the socket and one for the lighting, could be a sign of bad planning at the design stage.

Purely because there wasn't enough available ways in the CU. Its maxed out now. I did think of installing a smaller CU next to it but didn't want to over complicate and expense the job.

 

[djelectric]

Precisely.

I charge £10.00 for notifications ..... so I'm happy!

This is a good shout! I need one of those tins that you can only open with a tin opener to save this for the years subscription though.. Ill spend it all in the pub otherwise!

 

[djelectric]

28/29 notifications and you've recovered the cost....happy days

Thats cheap! who are you with?

 

[Octopus]

This is a good shout! I need one of those tins that you can only open with a tin opener to save this for the years subscription though.. Ill spend it all in the pub otherwise!

Hum you need to ensure you build up a cash reserve in your business account for such bills and to cover cash flow when people pay you late!

 

[djelectric]

Hum you need to ensure you build up a cash reserve in your business account for such bills and to cover cash flow when people pay you late!

In the future yes this would be ideal but for now i have a current account and a wallet. And mates to lend me money when I'm skint!

 

[Leesparkykent]

Thats cheap! who are you with?

I'm with the NICEIC but the cheapest seems to be with STROMA which the post was referring to.

 

[Octopus]

In the future yes this would be ideal but for now i have a current account and a wallet. And mates to lend me money when I'm skint!

Sooner rather than later imho. You will have suppliers to pay and tax bills twice a year which you need to save for. HMRC don't like non payers.

 

[djelectric]

Well I passed my assessment!!! Over the moon about it! Been very nerve-racking the last few days. Thanks for your input everyone