Notice to DIY people

[sxsparky]

Notice to DIY PEOPLE

NEVER mess with electricity!


Electricity is fascinating and useful—but it can also be incredibly dangerous. The electricity that flows from power plants travels at thousands of times higher voltages than the electricity in our homes. If you are stupid enough to touch anything connected to power equipment, you will almost certainly die a very painful and unpleasant death. So heed warnings like this one and stay well away.
The electricity that comes out of household power sockets is also plenty dangerous enough to kill you, so keep away from that too. Don't play with household power sockets under any circumstances and never take apart electrical appliances, because dangerous voltages can linger inside even after they are switched off.

Call an electrician you tight git!!!
by not and trying to do it yourself it could cost you alot more and even your or your family's life

 

[RWJ]

 

[sxsparky]

Just added the no DIY badge

 

[trev]

All due respect mate but if you think that's going to put anyone off you're fooling yourself. I applaud your effort though

 

[Dave 85]

You might as well warn people not to drive/walk/cycle on public highways because it could lead to a very painful and unpleasant death while you're at it.

 

[trev]

Don't take non prescription drugs they are bad for you.
Another well known warning that is often ignored

 

[Darkwood]

Kinda cutting your own throat here sxsparky .... most of us rely on the extra income that there attempt has created ..how many times have you had to say to a customer that if he had got a qualified electrician in the first place the bill would have been alot cheaper than it is now you've had a go yourself. Well i lost count myself and earn a nice few bob on the strength of it.

 

[needasparks]

He's doing his bit, think of it as a public service....

Normal service will resume later.......................

 

[Mark_Burgess]

Notice to DIY people!!

Carry on as you are, keep calling me to put it right when things have not been as easy as you thought. :wink5:

 

[trev]

Mark, you forgot to add "Just get the funeral out of the way before calling me"

 

[Inteificio]

If you are stupid enough to touch anything connected to power equipment, you will almost certainly die a very painful and unpleasant death

total BS.

I bet there is not one person on this forum who has not got a shock.

 

[needasparks]

I bet there is not one person on this forum who has not got a shock.

I got one this morning. The gas bill turned up

 

[alarm man]

a decent effort but as has been said it wont stop them,not when people are giving spark by numbers instructions,alot of jobs could be done by a diyer like changing switches and sockets in theory,its easy to a spark its like for like,but without test equipment not a neon and a basic understanding of electricity it becomes dangerous,lets face it most diyers struggle to change a plug correctly,most probably try their hand a ta bit of plumbing diy too but if that goes wrong you just get wet..

 

[alarm man]

If you are stupid enough to touch anything connected to power equipment, you will almost certainly die a very painful and unpleasant death

total BS.

I bet there is not one person on this forum who has not got a shock.

possibly the same number who did and cant post...that electricity,pah its not that dangerous,just tingles..

 

[Deleted member 9648]

The OP ignores the fact that there are plenty of DIYers who are perfectly capable of carrying out some electrical work quite safely..(And I state this with first hand experience of a DIY death)......but the arrogance of some electicians who refuse to accept that anyone but them can change a switch beggars belief.

 

[Darkwood]

Just to undermine the strength of the OP only 40 general public a year are killed by electricution on average in the uk with a population of 70million, although every death is one too many it shows as a percentage that it is actually a very small risk of been killed, most contact with electric is usually quick accidental brush against offending powered item which has a natural spasm of the muscles to pull away instantly, its normally the rare occasions where you fully grab an item with a PD that can lock you in place to receive a life threatening shock.

Many other factors also reduce the risk of death like the bodies own natural resistance the footwear and what route through your body the current takes, on occasions where it may cross your heart or brain then death probability is increased dramatically but youll be supprised how much damage the body can take from a electric shock, all in all your claims of certain death cant be further from the truth according to statistics.

Edit added.... must agree though what ever your doing you shouldn't mess with something you dont fully understand especially when it has the potential to kill!!!!!

 

[alarm man]

The OP ignores the fact that there are plenty of DIYers who are perfectly capable of carrying out some electrical work quite safely..(And I state this with first hand experience of a DIY death)......but the arrogance of some electicians who refuse to accept that anyone but them can change a switch beggars belief.

how do you come to that conclusion,most if not all diyers dont own a meter and most if they do dont know how to read or understand the readings,the first thing any spark or anyone dealing with electrics is prove its dead then lock off and work,most diyers crack on with the basic understanding they think they know what they are doing,which sadly isnt the case..

 

[micknew]

This is the place they turn to for advice and so many forum members fall over themselves to give it.
Sensible members don't when it's obvious they are DIYers..

 

[Engineer54]

There are DIYers out there, that i would say are more knowledgeable, and dare i say it competent than a good many electrical trainee boys. lol!!!

 

[sxsparky]

If you are stupid enough to touch anything connected to power equipment, you will almost certainly die a very painful and unpleasant death

total BS.

I bet there is not one person on this forum who has not got a shock.

Any shock could kill you!!

 

[telectrix]

so could walking in front of a bus.

 

[sxsparky]

so could walking in front of a bus.

but would you walk out in front of a bus??? if so your asking to kill yourself!!

 

[sxsparky]

how do you delete your account on this site as i am sick of idiots arguing and think they are above people!

 

[telectrix]

close the door behind you

 

[trev]

Mate it's banter. If you leave yourself open you're going to get it it's just like being on site

 

[alarm man]

so could walking in front of a bus.

but most people understand the dangers of walking in front of a bus..

 

[needasparks]

I feel the tension, could be pims o'clock ! Who's got the biscuits ?

 

[micknew]

sxsparky I think the last comments were meant half heartedly, chill out man.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

well i know that DNO oppratives arn`t supposed to be classed as DIYers but what i came across today really annoyed...and also disappointed me as well.....on a EICR today and just got in and was inspecting the main earthing and bonding when i noticed that the tails had been "jointed"...about 500mm from the cutout using metal clamps with a bit of insulation tape for "protection"......what the DNO had done is to joint a small length of tails onto old fabric covered cable..like a flat 2 core stuff that then went on from the above mentioned joints to the meter....couldn`t get any pics guys as my phones given up the ghost (have a new iphone coming on friday)....but as i have said...my heart sank when i saw this garbage.......the tails were replaced for new....oh by the way..Ze=0.03....PFC (line-neutral)=8.97kA....just outrageous....!!

 

[Des 56]

What times this bus coming
Scratch that, it seems like a nice evening for a walk

 

[telectrix]

as previos posts, sx, it's only banter. we all get some stick now and then ( as the solicitor said to the dominatrix )

 

[alarm man]

i agree with sx,he has a valid point.....

 

[Darkwood]

how do you delete your account on this site as i am sick of idiots arguing and think they are above people!

Your Opening post is full of misguided errors and almost a brainwashed view, i mearly and constructively corrected them, posting such a thread will invitedly create debate, i myself dont think im above anyone but i would expect anyone reading my posts or others on this thread to skip over the ones (ignore) that have little constuctive value and take in the ones that do show you a differing view to your way of thinking and then weigh up either you response as been a good debatable one or even a ' thx' or maybe even one of disagreement, its what this sites about 'asking, learning debating and helping' with sometime a little sarcasm and humour thrown in.

Try not to let the various replies get to you, i too post things and get shot down occasionally but its how you learn by chatting with crowds in a similar line of employment, not a reason to delete your account though.

 

[D80]

A DIYER, good or bad, will only call you when it doesn't work. Safety matters not, only that it works.

No tests are/can be conducted on anything, but it works. For now.

 

[Darkwood]

close the door behind you

I had to laugh more at your profile pic ..it seems your comment fitted it just nicely then.

 

[UNG]

Any shock could kill you!!

If your in cardiac arrest it may useful to get a shock

 

[b3ta]

I am a DIY person, and I understand the frustration vented thus far: I'm in IT, so I'm sure you can imagine the problems I must sort out --- my parents-in-law are bringing their laptop to my daughter's birthday party, so I can sort out something for them:sad_smile:.

That said, I should explain why I joined this forum. A passion of mine is doing live sound. Part of it entails fixing things that break during a performance, when you cannot wait for an electrician (or whoever) to come along. Sometimes these things relate to sound-level issues (milli-amps and milli-volts), other times to mains problems. I thus have quite a strange cllection of testing gear and tools. I also work as safely as possible, and have no issue referring to someone with more knowledge (which is why I joined).

At our Church the fact of the matter is that every single qualified electrician we've had, made a mess of things from the perspective of impacting the sound. Maybe what was done is according to spec, but it is useless if there is a mains hum in the system as a result, for example.

Does anyone on this forum have experience in the field (if you pardon the pun) of electricity and live sound reinforcement? I have looked and asked, and thus far it has been a sad tale of a lack of understanding and no documentation left behind by any previous electrician.

By the way, I am in South Africa (Pretoria), but we were a colony for long enough to have had some benefit from UK standards (at least, I hope so).

 

[Admin]

You've got no worries with me. I get a bit jittery when I'm plugging HDMI cables in as I had a (small) shock off one once because I didn't turn the TV off when I was connecting it to the Xbox!!!! haha - I get the Mrs to change the lightbulbs now.

 

[kenny james]

never mind d.i.y people messing with electrics i could also put some qualified sparks work into dispute too which i have come across lately!
while we are at it might as well have a petition to stop the government churning out these stupid 3 week courses to train people to become "a qualified spark" now that is dangerous.