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Who is to be informed for the removal of a cutout fuse for say a consumer unit change??
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and due to the Electricity at work regulations we must never work live, so that means you have to pull the fuse.
EAWR don't state that live working is always prohibited. Incidentally, would you not consider pulling the supplier's fuse to be live working? Very dangerous. Shouldn't be doing it.
House we have been at today (friday)....old cast iron service head on a TT. My boss has advised the client that they could do with getting the DNO to come out and replace it. I wont be pulling that...he can bloody do it...lol.........
Dont know if any of you work within SSE patch, but I found on their website a pdf that explains that if you are part of a permited trade association they allow you to pull the fuses.
ssepd.co.uk/uploadedFiles/Content/15_News_and_Media/ProcedureOnTheRemoval.pdf <<<put www. in front of <<<
i unfortunetly work for those sse clowns!!!
I seemed to have missed something. What thread is this, and what are the specific changes in Jan relating to pulling the DNO fuse, please?Well as noted on another thread the pulling of the DNO fuse will become a mute discussion as of Jan, as if your wanting to abide by the BS 7671-2008, you can not pull a DNO fuse unless you have that DNO permission.
Regulation 537.1.4 As been extended in the 1st amendment to include:
"Where the distributor provides a means of disconnection complying with chapter 53 at the origin of the installation and agrees that it may be used as the means of isolation for the part of the installation between the origin and the main linked switch or circuit breaker required by regulation 537.1.4, the requirement for isolation and switching of that part of the installation is satisfied.
Note A cut-out fuse may be withdrawn only by a person authorized to do so by the distributor."
So the regs are now advising us that we should not be pulling cut-out fuses unless we are authorized to do so.
Educate their call centre staff??....When was the last time you spoke to an educated call centre member of staff.....lol........:dozey:So are all the distributors going to simplify their proceedures, educate their call centre staff and make the whole process easier for everyone? I doubt it.
Last time I needed a distributor it took me 6 calls and 1 hour of my time!
Rant over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So....in a roundabout kind of way Tony...you got there...in the end i suspect...lol........:cry_smile:I’ve been lucky, only ever had to speak to a DNO once, the conversation went along the lines of:
- I need to speak to an engineer
- I can take an enquiry and pass it on to the correct department
- Do you know what you’re talking about?
- No I just pass messages on…..
- Let me speak to an engineer that will know what I’m talking about.
- I can put you through to our technical sales department
- OK I’ll give that a try
- Hello technical sales
- I explained the problem
- Nothing to do with us, but I know a man that can
- Hello systems engineering
- Thank god! I explain the problem again
- Eeerr can I call you back within 10 minutes
- We’ll be there in ½ an hour
Interesting point this.....should anyone pull a DNO fuse on there own?.....or should another competent person be present....just in case?....Should at least one of those be an emergency first aider?..........With everyone saying they pull it their self that’s fair enough for obvious reasons having to wait for the do which could equal lost money waiting around. But if you do please be careful make sure you wear correct ppe and look at the head before you do encase bitumen is present and you can’t get it back in. AND ALWAYS TEST!!! Can’t express it how important it is. I’m not going to lie I messed up didn’t test and couldn’t let go couldn’t scream because I had the tails in my had lucky I got yanked off and only got bruises. 100% stupidity but I never been so scared and everyone should always take great care one mishap and that’s it.
Work safely? This is getting beyond a joke!
If the DNO’s fitted isolators to EVERY installation then so be it. But they are neglecting their care of duty to my eyes. “Every installation should have a safe means of isolation”.
I’ve had to work to those rules for the last 35 years, why in the name of god are they exempt!
Rant over! :83:
Unauthorised pulling of the DNO fuse is going to become more conspicuous post smart-meter installation because the meter technology will have a back-up supply and "phone home" with an alarm signal indicating supply interruption to the installation. The intention is that these alarm calls will be logged and investigated by DNO fraud and abstraction team.
Im going to request isolator fitting on my house on monday see what happens
Just a wee aside the 3ph from street comes into my house then subs off to 2 neighbours properties Where would I stand if their main fuse blew while I was away on holiday and no access could be provided ? Im going to ask this on monday as well
Back in June I requested a fuse upgrade and isolator. Within 3 weeks out they came to fit isolator, but would not fit it until fuse was upgraded. Next turn out was also to fit isolator. Then at last to upgrade fuse. Then another visit to fit isolator, but they went to the wrong property. Its now mid September. I am still waiting for a call back to re arrange an isolator.
Im going to request isolator fitting on my house on monday see what happens
Just a wee aside the 3ph from street comes into my house then subs off to 2 neighbours properties Where would I stand if their main fuse blew while I was away on holiday and no access could be provided ? Im going to ask this on monday as well
I also purchased some electrical gloves when pulling the fuse to be extra careful.
This is a really good idea.
However I've just checked the price and I'm unpleasantly surprised at how expensive they are, £70 a pair.
In balance, I had an isolator in 24hrs at another job last week.
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