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[Dave Appleby]

Just been called to this beauty as previous electrician wanted more money ( in cash) up front and walked to quote "cut his losses".

Mounting board has been removed. Meter has been moved by said electrician. And yes it has been wedged in pushing the gas feed across.

I wish I could say it's a Photoshop job. However this is reality.

 

[snowhead]

Looks like someone didn't look at it close enough when they quoted / surveyed.
Bet they were horrified when they opened the cupboard FOR THE FIRST time and realised what space they had to work with.

Looks like a shelf below, with cutout under?
Is there room to remove the shelf and lower the meter, get the energy supplier in to lower the meter?

 

[Dave Appleby]

SSE have already been out and are somewhat annoyed. Apparently he removed the wooden mounting board as it was illegal and needed to be metal!

Existing 4 fuse unit is to the right at 90 degrees. Why a 10 way split board? ???

Couple more from the same contracting team.
Mixture of trades.

The last one of the switch is the access they cut.

Half of me wants to walk away, however, these people are in serious distress and have already been stung for 4.5k for the boiler and 1.7 on the rewiring.

And. Yes, they are a member of a trade body.

 

[Dave Appleby]

SSE have already been out and are somewhat annoyed. Apparently he removed the wooden mounting board as it was illegal and needed to be metal!

Existing 4 fuse unit is to the right at 90 degrees. Why a 10 way split board? ???

Couple more from the same contracting team.
Mixture of trades.

The last one of the switch is the access they cut.

Half of me wants to walk away, however, these people are in serious distress and have already been stung for 4.5k for the boiler and 1.7 on the rewiring.

And. Yes, they are a member of a trade body.
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Should have added. He tried to bill extra for lifting the upstairs sockets as that was the law now. However, that didn't apply to downstairs.

Lights are all in 1mm.

 

[snowhead]

I think he'd exceeded his skill level by the time he put the 2 (or is it 3) screws in the C.U

And what was he going to do with the "Don't know" cable?
I know, he doesn't know what he was going to do with it.

It's always been a mystery as why some people spend more time doing things wrong than they would have doing them right.

Nowadays you can blame it on U-tube videos but what was their excuse before.

 

[Mike Johnson]

Well at least the galvanised box had a grommet.

 

[Dave Appleby]

Well at least the galvanised box had a grommet.

Indeed!

 

[Dave Appleby]

Indeed!

No earth though

 

[Dustydazzler]

I was having a bad day

enough said

 

[Dave Appleby]

On a serious note.

Open to advice.

Should I be reporting this to NICEIC?

 

[Dave OCD]

If these idiots are registered with them then definitely yes, and send the pictures. I don't know what would come of it if anything but you could give them some hassle !

 

[Lucien Nunes]

Lights are all in 1mm.

Is that a problem?

 

[andyb]

Is that a problem?

Domestic installations in T&E I only ever use 1mm now, with LED lights there should be no need for anything else.
Of course, normal design constraints will apply.

 

[Dave Appleby]

Is that a problem?

No. Not for drop or area. Just don't see it often.

 

[Mike Johnson]

I think with the advent of more and more LED lights and Tungsten and Halogen being phase out we will see more and more lighting circuits in 1.0mm, maybe in the end going even smaller, the advent of very low Amp RCBO's is just around the corner.

 

[andyb]

I think with the advent of more and more LED lights and Tungsten and Halogen being phase out we will see more and more lighting circuits in 1.0mm, maybe in the end going even smaller, the advent of very low Amp RCBO's is just around the corner.

I agree Mike, I already use 3a mcbs if possible (it nearly always is) to get around my perennial argument with my assessor regarding protection for fans.

 

[Deleted account]

I never use anything other than 1mm for lighting circuits

 

[pc1966]

They really should be offering 3A C-curve MCB and RCBO now.

Assuming max 1.5A operating current and so 3A C-curve at 15-30A magnetic trip point it looks OK for LEDs, even simultaneously switched I suspect. And for a typical floor of 5 rooms that is about 70W of LEDs per room, plenty bright enough!

Currently the OSG Table 7.1(i) has a length limit for 6A C-curve on 1mm at 65m, so going to 3A C-curve would be 130m with is very unlikely to be a problem for one breaker's range of rooms.

 

[Mike Johnson]

The smallest dual pole RCBO I have found is Hager 6Amp its some way towards it I suppose.

 

[andyb]

They really should be offering 3A C-curve MCB and RCBO now.

Assuming max 1.5A operating current and so 3A C-curve at 15-30A magnetic trip point it looks OK for LEDs, even simultaneously switched I suspect. And for a typical floor of 5 rooms that is about 70W of LEDs per room, plenty bright enough!

Currently the OSG Table 7.1(i) has a length limit for 6A C-curve on 1mm at 65m, so going to 3A C-curve would be 130m with is very unlikely to be a problem for one breaker's range of rooms.

Don't know about RCBOs pc, but Contactum do a 3A, C curve MCB.

 

[pc1966]

Don't know about RCBOs pc, but Contactum do a 3A, C curve MCB.

It seems easy to get MCB below 6A for industrial style boards, but not so many make them for home CU. Certainly not seen RCBO below 6A

 

[Mike Johnson]

AEG, Debflex, Lexman and Legrand make domestic 2A Dual pole MCB's but did not look any further on the Leroy Merlin web site to see if anyone else did, RCBO's are very difficult to find below 6A

https://www.leroymerlin.fr/produits/disjoncteur-phase-neutre-2a-83544805.html

 

[richy3333]

Customer has to make the report to the NICEIC. If the original spark is AC then the platinum promise guarentee will apply

 

[Dave Appleby]

Customer has to make the report to the NICEIC. If the original spark is AC then the platinum promise guarentee will apply

Ok. Will pass that on in a minute.

 

[Dave Appleby]

Ok. Will pass that on in a minute.

Sorry..... Thanks!