Even after testing for dead in the proper fashion I don't think it's a bad thing to just give the conductor a gentle touch before grabbing it firmly.

Note, that's an electrical conductor, not a bus conductor. I'm not allowed to grab bus conductors firmly any more.
Especially after checking they're dead ;)
 
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Deuce, did you just say you could pull it off without a murmur?
 
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I worked with a bloke when I left School and started my Apprenticeship, who would, if he wasn't sure, if the circuit was dead ( no safe isolation in those days) touch the wire to the back of his hand, why the back I would ask, cuz your muscles contract when you get a belt, so the back of your hand is best. Go figure the logic. Bib and Brace coveralls with the ubiquitous Neon tester clipped in the top pocket, you weren't a Spark until you could carry a neon tester in your pocket with pride, he even had one in his jacket when he turned up at work in the morning, I wanted to be like him, hero worship I think it would be called these days. Funny how things change!!!!
I suppose today's equivalent to my Mate would be Thomas (Naggy) sorry Thomas couldn't resist, no offence intended,
 
Ringshank nail, sometimes refereed to as a screw nail by some, not by me though, never actually seen a screw nail, unless of course you are referring to a screw that your screwdriver wont work on. so you transgress and belt it with a hammer:tongue:
Screw nail has a type of thread its used to increase the holding strength of the nail.
 
Screw nail has a type of thread its used to increase the holding strength of the nail.
Thought that was a ring shank nail!!
 
Different thing. Rings shanks have concentric rings, but there are nails with screw threads also. Have a Google if you don't believe me.
 
Different thing. Rings shanks have concentric rings, but there are nails with screw threads also. Have a Google if you don't believe me.

Pretty sure that's just a different way of getting rings on the shank. I don't think they're designed to be used any differently.

Still just a nail either way :p
 
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You need to Google it. They do exist. I'll have a tenner on it.
 
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You need to Google it. They do exist. I'll have a tenner on it.

A tenner on what? There being a product that is called a 'screw nail'? No way - I know there are!

But it's still just a nail. There is no hybrid that works as both, in both directions.
 
A tenner on what? There being a product that is called a 'screw nail'? No way - I know there are!

But it's still just a nail. There is no hybrid that works as both, in both directions.

It's uni-directional screw, get used to it :D:p:D
 
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It's uni-directional screw, get used to it :D:p:D
It's not! You try turning that f***** into a timber without drilling a hole first and then tell me its uni-directional!

Anyway, I said I had time to argue this point as I had a day off. Well it's clocking off time now, so the day off is over. As such I have a steak to cook and some wine to guzzle. Go try and convince someone else of your wonder-screw/nail :D
 
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So do I get me tenner? Feel free to use the optimistic button.
 
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Ooh a disagree . Harsh.
 
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if you hit it with a hammer, it's either:
1. a nail
2. a non-electrical fault.
3. an apprentice.
 
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So many euphemisms so little time - even DPG with annular! Priceless!
You can get threaded nails, ie a nail with a screw thread but a plain flat head for knocking in with a hammer. Haven't seen any for years but I think they were supposed to drive in and grip better than annulars.
 
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