Fitting an LED Spot into a loft hatch?

[DPG]

Hi nicebutdim,
Please don’t use CHEAP push fit connectors.!
FLEX doesn’t connect well with Push Fit connectors ( hence why we use Feral's ).
Lever operated Wago may perform better.
But Feral crimping is more acceptable.

You do realise there are push fit connectors that work with stranded cable right?

I'm sure nicebutdim does.

CAPS AND !!!! over the top punctuation here !!!!!

 

[Penguin]

Of all flexible cords that come to mind SY must be the least flexible.

SY gave the required mechanical protection of the movement from the loft hatch.!

20/25mm conduit wasn’t suitable in the space available.

Flex didn’t meet the mechanical movement of the operation of the loft access being operated over and over again. Also the fact that clumpy feet using the loaf steps made me want to possibly over engineer the requirement. Safety first.

 

[Penguin]

You do realise there are push fit connectors that work with stranded cable right?

I'm sure nicebutdim does.

CAPS AND !!!! over the top punctuation here !!!!!

Never wishing to offend, just to help.
But you did mention cheap push fits.

APOLOGISES.

 

[DPG]

Never wishing to offend, just to help.
But you did mention cheap push fits.

APOLOGISES.

I'm not sure I did. But fair enough.

 

[davesparks]

SY gave the required mechanical protection of the movement from the loft hatch.!

No it doesn't, SY is mechanically not very good at all. And for that apllication you need good flexibility which SY doesn't have.

Flex didn’t meet the mechanical movement of the operation of the loft access being operated over and over again.

Yes it does, it's flexible cable, the clue is in the name!

A decent rubber flex is far more suitable than SY, with the advantage that rubber flex will actually comply with UK product standards.

 

[mainline]

Hi nicebutdim,
Please don’t use CHEAP push fit connectors.!
FLEX doesn’t connect well with Push Fit connectors ( hence why we use Feral's ).
Lever operated Wago may perform better.
But Feral crimping is more acceptable.

Ferrules shouldn't be used for push fit connectors.

 

[Penguin]

No it doesn't, SY is mechanically not very good at all. And for that apllication you need good flexibility which SY doesn't have.


Yes it does, it's flexible cable, the clue is in the name!

A decent rubber flex is far more suitable than SY, with the advantage that rubber flex will actually comply with UK product standards.

On my first original inspection of the loft I noticed a number of mice and squirrel 🐿 traps.
There was evidence of 🐿 activity, so for that reason I over engineered the materials used.

I’m grateful for the lesson, and now understand that Flex, is flexible.

But possibly not as 🐿 tolerant as SY.

Would you agree?

 

[Penguin]

You do realise there are push fit connectors that work with stranded cable right?

I'm sure nicebutdim does.

CAPS AND !!!! over the top punctuation here !!!!!

Please send me a picture of a Push Fit connection unit, that used use with stranded flex.

 

[mainline]

On my first original inspection of the loft I noticed a number of mice and squirrel 🐿 traps.
There was evidence of 🐿 activity, so for that reason I over engineered the materials used.

I’m grateful for the lesson, and now understand that Flex, is flexible.

But possibly not as 🐿 tolerant as SY.

Would you agree?

SY cable is not suitable in fixed wiring applications that require compliance with British Standard 7671.

 

[DPG]

Please send me a picture of a Push Fit connection unit, that used use with stranded flex.

I've had far too many beers. Sorry.

 

[mainline]

Please send me a picture of a Push Fit connection unit, that used use with stranded flex.

PUSH WIRE® connector for junction boxes (773-104) | WAGO GB

PUSH WIRE® connector for junction boxes; for solid and stranded conductors; max. 2.5 mm²; 4-conductor; transparent housing; orange cover; Surrounding air temperature: max 60°C; 2,50 mm²; multicoloured (4044918397629) Online at WAGO GB!

www.wago.com

 

[DPG]

PUSH WIRE® connector for junction boxes (773-104) | WAGO GB

PUSH WIRE® connector for junction boxes; for solid and stranded conductors; max. 2.5 mm²; 4-conductor; transparent housing; orange cover; Surrounding air temperature: max 60°C; 2,50 mm²; multicoloured (4044918397629) Online at WAGO GB!

www.wago.com

I think we're being trolled. Having said that I've had a few ales. But I can still punctuate with the best of them. Hurrah.

I'm fact, I'm an assesor of beer drinking. Cheers! Beer.

 

[Penguin]

SY cable is not suitable in fixed wiring applications that require compliance with British Standard 7671.

Correct, but there is movement, and not a fixed application.

 

[nicebutdim]

Hi nicebutdim,
Please don’t use CHEAP push fit connectors.!
FLEX doesn’t connect well with Push Fit connectors ( hence why we use Feral's ).
Lever operated Wago may perform better.
But Feral crimping is more acceptable.

Cheap push fit connectors are supplied with lights linked by OP and can be seen connected in one of the images. I'll eat my hat if ferrules have been used.

In this instance the push fit connectors have a button to release and are perfectly fine for use with flex - it's just that the connectors supplied with cheap light fittings can be hit and miss when it comes to gripping cable.

 

[nicebutdim]

PUSH WIRE® connector for junction boxes (773-104) | WAGO GB

PUSH WIRE® connector for junction boxes; for solid and stranded conductors; max. 2.5 mm²; 4-conductor; transparent housing; orange cover; Surrounding air temperature: max 60°C; 2,50 mm²; multicoloured (4044918397629) Online at WAGO GB!

www.wago.com

Wago 773 range isn't suitable for use with fine stranded cables.

 

[Penguin]

Wago 773 range isn't suitable for use with fine stranded cables.

Thankyou nicebutdim,
I thought I was going mad.

And ferrules can be used with Wago connection units!

 

[mainline]

Wago 773 range isn't suitable for use with fine stranded cables.

I don't think SY cable is classed as fine stranded.

 

[Penguin]

I've had far too many beers. Sorry.

Enjoy the beers and the Rugby.

 

[Penguin]

I don't think SY cable is classed as fine stranded.

I think we’re straying from the point.

Which was:- over engineering my cable choice from PVC or UPVC flex between a loft hinged access light fitting, 1 meter into a loft using 1.5 3c SY as the clients property had an infestation of 🐿.

What would you guys have used???

 

[thisisthecount]

Hi nicebutdim,
Please don’t use CHEAP push fit connectors.!
FLEX doesn’t connect well with Push Fit connectors ( hence why we use Feral's ).
Lever operated Wago may perform better.
But Feral crimping is more acceptable.

Ok but they actually came with that range ?