Your going to laugh lads!!!!!!! NVQ3 - Domestic!!!!!

[alarm man]

Ken I think people are over reacting here. If the JIB are on board aswell then it will be them and only them who drop the wages and form a 2 tier! Which I doubt. If anything they will put it the same as JIB wages

then you have the jib lads kicking off,saying im a proper spark he's a diet spark,and wait till the agencys get involved,diet spark rates for all..

 

[millwall ken]

Ken I think people are over reacting here. If the JIB are on board aswell then it will be them and only them who drop the wages and form a 2 tier! Which I doubt. If anything they will put it the same as JIB wages

Like I said mate, I don't like seeing the industry split, BUT I am in favour of anything that will drive up standards and get some bloody coin back onto our dinner tables. And if THIS IS that step then we shall have to wait and see. It has certainly produced one of the best debates that I've seen on this forum lately.

 

[millwall ken]

then you have the jib lads kicking off,saying im a proper spark he's a diet spark,and wait till the agencys get involved,diet spark rates for all..

Its certainly poses a question.

 

[Electricalserv]

then you have the jib lads kicking off,saying im a proper spark he's a diet spark,and wait till the agencys get involved,diet spark rates for all..

But why would he be a diet spark because he works on domestic? Again its people like you with that comment causing a divide. We're all spark we work in different sectors and thats that.


I was told a story the other day about a commercial spark. He was told to clip cables direct wall through mortar. He wasted half the packet of clips. Not used to working with clipped direct!

 

[alarm man]

But why would he be a diet spark because he works on domestic? Again its people like you with that comment causing a divide. We're all spark we work in different sectors and thats that.


I was told a story the other day about a commercial spark. He was told to clip cables direct wall through mortar. He wasted half the packet of clips. Not used to working with clipped direct!

because thats all he will be qualified to do,like previous post a spark should be able to turn his hand to all electrical work from domestic to marine to controls,industrial and even alarms,alarms are the easy bit tho..:shocked3:

 

[millwall ken]

But why would he be a diet spark because he works on domestic? Again its people like you with that comment causing a divide. We're all spark we work in different sectors and thats that.


I was told a story the other day about a commercial spark. He was told to clip cables direct wall through mortar. He wasted half the packet of clips. Not used to working with clipped direct!

Steady on fella, I think that alarm man is saying HOW the qualification will be perceived, NOT what he personally thinks.
Lets not get this brilliant debate closed boys.

 

[Engineer54]

and how would we attack these people, how will we get are way engineer 54, your a man with expierience help us, be our guide to sucess and rule out these croney money grabbing schemes, what do we need to do and when do we need to do it..

or you could all work for cash in hand ... or put prices up to go through books and pay these schemes

You need to come together via an association to get that ''Nation Register of Electricians'' Which is already in existence. I've seen it linked on the forum a couple of times. Unfortunately, i can't find where, or remember who posted it (old age i'm afraid..lol!!) But that to my mind, would be the first step, in taking the industry in the right direction...

These scheme providers are basically parasites that are feeding off the backs of working electricians, that give nothing to little in return, for the fee's they charge you. The only time they do any form of policing, is to protect themselves and their Logo, never to protect the industry against the incompetency of there members. Don't think they even support their members when in dispute with a client....

 

[JD6400]

Alarms are the easy bit .
Not in my world , bloody things !:svengo:

 

[alarm man]

ken your gonna have to stop this,im starting to agree with you..:wub:

 

[i=p/u]

aint easy , just earn your bucks watever way and spend on the one you love and if you dont love anyone and go toamsterdam every week, lifes to short if you smoke and you all smoke if you follow the iet