Thermal imaging

[feebs73]

Can you help?
We are a smallish company that has been asked to price for a job, the previous company has catalogued 293 items and have published 98 items in a manual,
can anyone please help regarding pricing as this would be a nice firm to get in with.

many thanks
feebs 73

 

[Knobhead]

How can you price for a job when you don’t know what it entails?

There’s more to thermographic surveys than wandering around waving an IR camera. You have to know what thing are and what they do.

 

[feebs73]

Who said we didn't know what we was doing?

didn't ask anyone how to do it,

I agree you can't wave the IR camera about,

if you can't answer the question than save time, effort and don't jump on a thread !

 

[davesparks]

No one will be able to help without all of the information needed to do the job.
I know nothing about thermal imaging but do know that if there are 293 items to be tested the price will be very different of they are all identical and lined up on a bench ready for you compared to if they are all different and spread out over a site of a few square miles!

 

[feebs73]

Hi davesparks
thanks for your reply, the job is over a farm witch we will have to walk about the previous people took 3 days on site.
thanks again for replying
feebs 73

 

[davesparks]

Have you worked on farms before? Not exactly perfect working conditions!

As I say I don't know anything about thermal surveying so don't know how long it takes per item tested it what is involved. But I assume you do?

So assuming you already know how long it takes you to carry out the required testing in the number of items to be tested you can work out how long the job will take and price that.

Then you need to decide how much extra time you need to allow for learning your way around the site and how you can best work within it. Also how long it will take to prepare for the job as far as all the setting up paperwork and recording procedures goes.

 

[Knobhead]

Who said we didn't know what we was doing?

didn't ask anyone how to do it,

I agree you can't wave the IR camera about,

if you can't answer the question than save time, effort and don't jump on a thread !

If you know what you are doing, get a price banged in. I know what we paid for a monthly thermographic and vibration survey, I also know what chaos was caused when a new company took it on.

To step in and take over a contract means you have no base line to work from. How do you know what’s running hot or is normal? We soon got the original company back.
The frequency was bi-monthly, half the checks done alternately unless we flagged something up as a special.
Our equipment was process critical, if needed we did our own checks. Due to the possible danger a failure could cause we had the third party checks.

It’s a good thing when done by someone experienced enough to know what’s going on.

 

[feebs73]

Hi again
The pervious company has disappeared, the firm has tried to call email and so on with no luck. So our guess is they have gone belly up.
The original question is what do you charge to be competive?
Many thanks
Feebs73

 

[ian.settle1]

Hi again
The pervious company has disappeared, the firm has tried to call email and so on with no luck. So our guess is they have gone belly up.
The original question is what do you charge to be competive?
Many thanks
Feebs73

It's like how long is a piece of string.

How many days are you going to be at the site taking thermal images?
Do you then have to go back to your office and download all these images?
Do you then have to write up a report which will then include all these images and give your findings.
Do you send this an electronic copy or hard copy to the client?

Without this info how can you ask on here what a competitive price will be if you don't tell people?

 

[Knobhead]

What strikes me is you say your company knows what they are doing. If you do there should be a price structure in place.
Why are you asking us to advise on something you’re experienced in? Or are you trying to bluff your way in to the job? I’ll be honest that’s what I think you’re trying to do.

I’d want a report and recommendations on anything that has had a noticeable change. It would then be down to the plant guys to get in there and find out if anything was amiss.
Everything else, an updated graph of temperature and vibration.

What detail do they want? Why do they want the survey?
As Ian said, how long is a piece of string?

What on earth warrants 98 reports on a farm?

 

[feebs73]

Thanks for the reply guys
We estimate 3 days on site and 2 days in the office printing out, we have a template that we use, yes the customer will be getting a printed report.
Yes It is a large farm, with a permanent maintenance team
Many thanks
Feebs73

 

[Engineer54]

Thanks for the reply guys
We estimate 3 days on site and 2 days in the office printing out, we have a template that we use, yes the customer will be getting a printed report.
Yes It is a large farm, with a permanent maintenance team
Many thanks
Feebs73

Sounds to me, like it's not just a farm, it also has some form of processing factory/utility attached to it... Can't see any other reason for having a thermal imagery inspection conducted on a farm as such, no matter how big it was...