Today's board change

[uksparks]

Hi,

This morning's job, in and out in 4 and a half hours. Vast improvement. Feel free to rip it apart and tell me I'm a fool and I've made a bodge of it and don't know what I'm doing.



I did actually heat shrink the end of that line conductor and disconnect the relevant earth and neutral and shrink them the same, it was for a shower circuit thats not connect in the loft, they also got labelled accordingly.



You may say why the cable ties, I saw one of you do it the other week on here, Trev i think or GMES maybe? Looked nice.



Ok I know MCB 8 is on when it doesn't need to be, I did switch it off.

 

[davesparks]

this is carp:

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Revenge?

Smartarse

 

[telectrix]

sweet..

 

[uksparks]

I'm intrigued with the circuit details sticker, where did you get them from, or did you print them yourself? I have always used Hager ever since I can remember unless something else is specced. Always have been very nice boards in my opinion.

See post 6 for info on this. I've seen quite a few hager boards where the stickers have all curled up and fallen off, I'm going to create a grid template on my label printer so that've can just bung them all in and off it prints.

I use 12mm clear on black super strength adhesive labels not the standard strength.

 

[gazj82]

Ah yes, I do have a Brother label printer to mark up MCB's. I did mean the circuit detail list on the flap down lid (unless your label printer can do those too, mine definitely cannot).

 

[Silly Sausage]

Now just stop it please will you, I can move with the times you know.

I love the look of well done lacing, it looks class!


@uksparks

Why the board change in the first place, if I may be so bold?
It looks a bit scabby and no door, but it's out of reach (of little people).

Decent job though

 

[uksparks]

Half of it wasn't covered by an RCD, there was a heat wise economy 10 supply in the left feeding one of the immersion elements which has now been converted to the whole installation as E7.

the customer just wanted a new unit as it's about to be let out and he wanted it all to be nice and safe.

Thanks for the positive comments everyone, it's nice to know others think it's ok.

 

[leonard]

On the middle picture that 4mm loose single core it looks to short to terminate or not!!!!!

 

[Simonslimline]

On the middle picture that 4mm loose single core it looks to short to terminate or not!!!!!

Look closer

 

[telectrix]

middle picture out of 6. hmm. like the irishman pointed to a row ot 6 cottages. that's mine, the 1 in the middle!

 

[guest119]

Didnt you take any after pics? ...

Boydy

 

[uksparks]

It's 6mm, yes there is enough, just needs pulling a little more.

The circuit labels, I get all my stickers from patlabelsonline.co.uk.

 

[Geordie Spark]

this is carp:

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Bowlocks .. it's a gadgee with a fish!

 

[Engineer54]

It's basically fine, but i can't see any reason for anyone to use cable ties in a tiny domestic CU... I don't allow there use in our larger final circuit DB's either, they can become the cause of absolute nightmare tracing cables in a relatively small area, where most if not all the ties would need to be removed to enable to trace/find a single conductor.....

 

[ayjay]

what about a pic of what it looked like before u stipped it out? might have been better
tie wrapping cables isnt good btw ( on aircraft looms maybye) but not c/u,s

 

[uksparks]

Point taken ill not tie wrap things in future, this is the only one I have ever done it on anyway.

 

[Guest77]

Point taken ill not tie wrap things in future, this is the only one I have ever done it on anyway.

Why Not? I think your board looked good, stop being a whimp and stand up for yourself.

 

[Andy78]

I remember getting a right rollocking off my leading electrician once for tie wrapping a load of line conductors together. It took me quite a while and I was well pleased with it, but I was made to take them all off. Never done it since.

 

[richy3333]

I remember getting a right rollocking off my leading electrician once for tie wrapping a load of line conductors together. It took me quite a while and I was well pleased with it, but I was made to take them all off. Never done it since.

That and the busses ran late and people didn't have their tickets checked

 

[Andy78]

That and the busses ran late and people didn't have their tickets checked

That took me longer than it should have to get that. Whether that speaks to the sharpness of my mind or the quality of the pun I'm not sure ;P

 

[Guest77]

I am not a tywrap man myself andy, but the board didn't look untidy and it was only a few small cores, no big issue IMO, now if it was a 36 way board and every core wrapped I would be jumping up and down about it lol.

 

[Andy78]

I am not a tywrap man myself andy, but the board didn't look untidy and it was only a few small cores, no big issue IMO, now if it was a 36 way board and every core wrapped I would be jumping up and down about it lol.

I wasn't casting any aspersions over the CU in this thread, just saying that I have a habit of not using them caused by a previous arse chewing .. lol
Strangely enough, thinking back, the same guy liked me ty-wrap CPCs and neutrals together in large TP+N boards..... He was Irish though.

 

[Engineer54]

I am not a tywrap man myself andy, but the board didn't look untidy and it was only a few small cores, no big issue IMO, now if it was a 36 way board and every core wrapped I would be jumping up and down about it lol.

So it's better not to ty-wrap grouped conductors in any size of CU/DB then!! ...lol!!

 

[Guest77]

So it's better not to ty-wrap grouped conductors in any size of CU/DB then!! ...lol!!

3 or 4 phase conductors is no big deal is it?

 

[Guest77]

I wasn't casting any aspersions over the CU in this thread, just saying that I have a habit of not using them caused by a previous arse chewing .. lol
Strangely enough, thinking back, the same guy liked me ty-wrap CPCs and neutrals together in large TP+N boards..... He was Irish though.

LOL, haha

 

[Engineer54]

3 or 4 phase conductors is no big deal is it?

Depends, it may well be, if you ever need to find and dig them out from a bunch of other cables that have all been tie-wrapped together!!!

 

[VoltzElectrical]

Ill probably not put them on next time now you have all said that, probably got another three board changes over the next week, so ill see what happens, to be honest, its only derated it fractionally as its only a tiny bit thats bunched, plus they would all be in exactly the same position if not tied anyway.

but thanks though.

the hager board has a much tighter tollerance on the din rail, or the MCB even, when you tighten them up they don't slant like the MK boards do.

I just prefer them, I think they are a lot better.

:angry_smile:

Just put my first (and last) MK board in. Horrible. RCD wouldn't trip, slanting MCBs, pre-wired links pulled out of crimps...

That Hager is nice, but try a BG (British General). You won't be disappointed.

 

[uksparks]

You have to be kidding, BG? IMHO they are cheap and nasty rubbish!

 

[Jamie]

:angry_smile:

Just put my first (and last) MK board in. Horrible. RCD wouldn't trip, slanting MCBs, pre-wired links pulled out of crimps...

That Hager is nice, but try a BG (British General). You won't be disappointed.

First and Last MK board I'll be putting in as of a few weeks ago too. Bloody things are a nightmare. Talk about pre-wired RCD link bird nest!!

 

[Guest77]

The MK boards are made in China now like most Boards, however the factory where they are made is a different one than other brands because they are terrible in quality, almost as bad as proteus which is made over here haha

 

[Silly Sausage]

Is/was Wylex gear manufactured in Wythenshawe in darkest south Manc?
I'm sure I've seen Wylex down that way the few times I've dared go there.