Estate Agents says Fit For Purpose

[123]

Really? I've never cooked on an induction hob so can't really comment, but do they have the infinite adjustment and reaction speed of gas hobs?
I know a few chefs, including my sister, who all agree that electric hobs are inferior.

Induction is a lot quicker to heat things than gas, and a lot more controlled.

 

[123]

Has advantage of no flame as well ,
, re-heat a stainless tea pot - No problem !

Is a stainless steel tea pot magnetic? If not, an induction hob is unlikely to heat it at all.

 

[EalingBadger]

Is a stainless steel tea pot magnetic? If not, an induction hob is unlikely to heat it at all.

It's not about magnetism as such, but eddy currents.

Think of the pot as being a shorted turn on a transformer.

 

[static zap]

...a shorted turn on a transformer....

It actually likes a bit of resistance .
(Hence copper bottomed pans are a No No)
--and all that inertia spoils responsiveness--

 

[EalingBadger]

It actually likes a bit of resistance .
(Hence copper bottomed pans are a No No)
--and all that inertia spoils responsiveness--

Indeed.

Copper - too good a shorted turn (though even they have some resistance of course ).

 

[alasdairp]

Not these days, induction hobs are far superior to gas for cooking on.

I prefer to cook using a gas hob and an ordinary electric oven. Induction hobs are very energy efficient but the high-frequency EMFs around the hob that the cook is exposed to when it is in use can even exceed the very high ICNIRP maximum LF EMF exposure levels. Such exposure IS associated with the promotion and probably initiation (causal) of various cancers. I would not want any of my family regularly cooking with one.

(As well as being an electrical & electronics engineer, I am also a Trustee of Children with Cancer UK, the largest UK Charity for Child and Young Adult (to age 24) cancer - we research into the causes and treatment of cancer and also fund some welfare work).

 

[EalingBadger]

I prefer to cook using a gas hob and an ordinary electric oven. Induction hobs are very energy efficient but the high-frequency EMFs around the hob that the cook is exposed to when it is in use can even exceed the very high ICNIRP maximum LF EMF exposure levels. Such exposure IS associated with the promotion and probably initiation (causal) of various cancers. I would not want any of my family regularly cooking with one.

(As well as being an electrical & electronics engineer, I am also a Trustee of Children with Cancer UK, the largest UK Charity for Child and Young Adult (to age 24) cancer - we research into the causes and treatment of cancer and also fund some welfare work).

Interesting.

I have just been reading up on induction hobs as a result of my interest being piqued by this thread and it is claimed (of course!) that the hobs do not emit dangerous radiation.

 

[Bobster]

I prefer to cook using a gas hob and an ordinary electric oven. Induction hobs are very energy efficient but the high-frequency EMFs around the hob that the cook is exposed to when it is in use can even exceed the very high ICNIRP maximum LF EMF exposure levels. Such exposure IS associated with the promotion and probably initiation (causal) of various cancers. I would not want any of my family regularly cooking with one.

(As well as being an electrical & electronics engineer, I am also a Trustee of Children with Cancer UK, the largest UK Charity for Child and Young Adult (to age 24) cancer - we research into the causes and treatment of cancer and also fund some welfare work).

Could you please direct me to the research papers proving this?

I have read up a lot on the subject, and all evidence I can find is non conclusive or claiming the contrary.

I wasn't researching for the purpose of an induction cooker, but the principal of EMF is the same.

 

[davesparks]

but the high-frequency EMFs around the hob that the cook is exposed to when it is in use can even exceed the very high ICNIRP maximum LF EMF exposure levels. Such exposure IS associated with the promotion and probably initiation (causal) of various cancers.

This seems contradictory, you appear to be saying that the high frequency emissions exceed the low frequency (LF) limits?

'IS associated' is a bit of an odd phrase to choose, even if research proves that there isn't a link then it would still be associated with the subject, it would just be that the association is that it has been disproved.

 

[static zap]

...... high-frequency EMFs around the hob that the cook is exposed to when it is in use can even exceed the very high ICNIRP maximum LF EMF exposure levels.....

a) My parents have a similar suspicion of Microwaves
, but they struggle to penetrate human tissue as well .
(Eye cataracts are probably a legitimate worry)
b) Returning to induction , pan sizing must pay an important part in stray fields.
c) A little bit of distance soon diminishes risk.

 

[pirate]

Love my induction hobs! fast, controllable...
and these days, EVERYTHING

 

[pirate]

Love my induction hobs! fast, controllable...
and these days, EVERYTHING gives you cancer...

 

[pirate]

I'm just waiting for my 80th birthday so I can start smoking again!

 

[pirate]

Honestly, do we even care?
I may appear flippant. but microwave ovens can do some damage.
How many PA Testers check those?

I do, and about 1 in 5 fail...

 

[pirate]

Do the householders take them out of service?
frankly...no.

 

[123]

Honestly, do we even care?
I may appear flippant. but microwave ovens can do some damage.
How many PA Testers check those?

I do, and about 1 in 5 fail...

Out of interest what do they fail on?

 

[Jim_e_Jib]

Out of interest what do they fail on?

Probably leakage. If the door doesn't seal properly or there's some other fault, you could be warming your cockles from the inside out.

 

[pirate]

Correct Jim...leakage! Actually, if you do a really good clean of the door seals they mostly pass second time round. However, if they fail consistently, they have to be replaced. I usually test at 15cm or nearer around the seal...any further away and any leakage is dissipated but may still be nasty, I think...but I am not knowledgeable enough to expand on this.

 

[Jim_e_Jib]

I used to work as a uplink engineer on an SNG truck. On one particularly blustery day, when the usual method of bracing the dish with bungee cords was failing to keep it on point, one of my colleagues offered to go on the roof and steady it by hand. I had to explain that the warm glow he'd get wouldn't be from a job well done...

 

[EalingBadger]

I used to work as a uplink engineer on an SNG truck. On one particularly blustery day, when the usual method of bracing the dish with bungee cords was failing to keep it on point, one of my colleagues offered to go on the roof and steady it by hand. I had to explain that the warm glow he'd get wouldn't be from a job well done...

What kind of power were you pushing out on the uplink?

 

[Jim_e_Jib]

What kind of power were you pushing out on the uplink?

From memory the amps were about 120W, I can't remember what the gain of the dish and the typical EIRP was though. On really cloudy days, it would be pushed quite hard! (I am using the term engineer very loosely here...!)