Fitting an LED Spot into a loft hatch?

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Thankyou nicebutdim,
I thought I was going mad.

And ferrules can be used with Wago connection units!

The indents left by the crimping tool on the ferrule could catch on the leaf spring and cause it to get stuck.

Using boot lace ferrules creates a highly loaded point of conduction in the clamp. This both reduces the current carrying capacity and potentially increase the chance of a poor contact if oxidised. Cage clamp terminals are designed to encourage wrap of the stripped bare cables around the internal clamp contact. This increases the contact area considerably.

 

[Penguin]

The indents left by the crimping tool on the ferrule could catch on the leaf spring and cause it to get stuck.

Using boot lace ferrules creates a highly loaded point of conduction in the clamp. This both reduces the current carrying capacity and potentially increase the chance of a poor contact if oxidised. Cage clamp terminals are designed to encourage wrap of the stripped bare cables around the internal clamp contact. This increases the contact area considerably.

 

[Penguin]

The indents left by the crimping tool on the ferrule could catch on the leaf spring and cause it to get stuck.

Using boot lace ferrules creates a highly loaded point of conduction in the clamp. This both reduces the current carrying capacity and potentially increase the chance of a poor contact if oxidised. Cage clamp terminals are designed to encourage wrap of the stripped bare cables around the internal clamp contact. This increases the contact area considerably.

I welcome your response, but as a 3c 1.5 flex has over 20+ individual strands within each core, it’s often very awkward to guarantee a sound connection with these lever type push in connections, especially if your daisy chaining 2 inputs on each lever for L N CpC.

As we all know, just one of those annoying strands can split away/across and arc.

Also, you can’t guarantee that the entire twisted strand has fully entered the lever enclosure and not just crumpled up inside.

A further question I’d ask you, is

For what reason we’re Ferrels introduced to the electrical industry.???

 

[Penguin]

I think we're being trolled. Having said that I've had a few ales. But I can still punctuate with the best of them. Hurrah.

I'm fact, I'm an assesor of beer drinking. Cheers! Beer.

 

[westward10]

Ferrule, it's ferrule.

 

[Penguin]

Ferrule, it's ferrule.

Ferrule, it's ferrule.

Why are ferrules used.?

What purpose do they have ?

 

[nicebutdim]

I don't think SY cable is classed as fine stranded.

Coarse stranded (class 2) cables are the only stranded cables suitable for use with the 773 range.

SY is fine stranded (class 5) and not suitable for use with that range of connectors.

It doesn't matter what we think, the manufacturer is clear on this point.

 

[Penguin]

Coarse stranded (class 2) cables are the only stranded cables suitable for use with the 773 range.

SY is fine stranded (class 5) and not suitable for use with that range of connectors.

It doesn't matter what we think, the manufacturer is clear on this point.

Very well explained nicebutdim,

Now as much as I enjoyed solder tipping (NOT), I’d rather ferrule and terminate in a ferrule approved connection unit.

OR just hope that by twisting the strands will hopefully be adequate to shove into a lever type block.! And hope for the best.!

 

[nicebutdim]

Very well explained nicebutdim,

Now as much as I enjoyed solder tipping (NOT), I’d rather ferrule and terminate in a ferrule approved connection unit.

OR just hope that by twisting the strands will hopefully be adequate to shove into a lever type block.! And hope for the best.!

Wago lever connectors are fine for used with fine stranded conductors and are designed to apply constant tension without damage to those conductors.

 

[davesparks]

On my first original inspection of the loft I noticed a number of mice and squirrel 🐿 traps.
There was evidence of 🐿 activity, so for that reason I over engineered the materials used.

I’m grateful for the lesson, and now understand that Flex, is flexible.

But possibly not as 🐿 tolerant as SY.

Would you agree?

If there is rodent activity then what is required first is pest control.

SY is not in any way rodent proof!

The only wiring systems which are truly rodent proof are steel conduit and MICC.
SWA is fairly rodent resistant but they can still damage the outer sheath which can be an issue if any moisture gets into the armour.