think I've heard it all now.

[meridian911]

I've just finished 1st fix on a kitchen lighting rewire with a few socket removals and changes.
The property is modern so has dot and dab walls.
We've cut neat chases down where we need to and clipped the cables for the plasterer to fill in.
The couple have just had a kitchen guy in to quote for fitting and he said that all the cables MUST be in capping and if there not when they try to sell there house the mortgage surveyor will "fail the electrics" , it took me an hour to stop laughing, honestly where do these clowns get there info !!!

 

[Knobhead]

Hang around, you'll find out.

 

[Jabbajaws]

I think the kitchen fitter has had his head in the gas oven too long. Not sure if capping is in the regs, though l suspect it is. I use capping anyway just for that bit of extra protection.

 

[Paul.M]

"honestly where do these clowns get there info !!!" B&Q leaflets mate! lol


Capping is not in the regs for cable protection, its there for the safety of the cable and the plasterer (cables come first of course!)

 

[Deleted member 9648]

Hang around, you'll find out.

I think the kitchen fitter has had his head in the gas oven too long. Not sure if capping is in the regs, though l suspect it is. I use capping anyway just for that bit of extra protection.

Didnt take long.....next post in fact.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

I've just finished 1st fix on a kitchen lighting rewire with a few socket removals and changes.
The property is modern so has dot and dab walls.
We've cut neat chases down where we need to and clipped the cables for the plasterer to fill in.
The couple have just had a kitchen guy in to quote for fitting and he said that all the cables MUST be in capping and if there not when they try to sell there house the mortgage surveyor will "fail the electrics" , it took me an hour to stop laughing, honestly where do these clowns get there info !!!

hmm....`kevin kitchen installer` and `barry bathroom fitter` offering sound professional electrical advice....these are the same sort that are responsible for `work` such as this...



this..


and this..

 

[hasel5]

Whats wrong with that bond at least it is attached to the pipe normally left hanging on the clip lol

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Whats wrong with that bond at least it is attached to the pipe normally left hanging on the clip lol

but its after a `tee`.....so its a non conformance....

 

[Liam12]

These kitchen fitters, actually is always the ******* kitchen fitters, just because they can measure and cut abit of work top and are team leaders at B&Q lol, fortunately haven't bumped into any of these just yet but have heard all too well

 

[Guest55]

avoid domestic work = problem solved.

;-)

 

[eollou88]

The pics are hilarious, I have this in some of my buildings its absolutely terrible

 

[SafetyFirst]

I assume with it being a 'modern' building, the circuits have RCD protection?

 

[GLENNSPARK]

I assume with it being a 'modern' building, the circuits have RCD protection?

the building could be as old as the hills.....its the age of the install that counts.....and the earthing arrangements of course

 

[SafetyFirst]

All i'm getting at is it's all well and good chuckling at how 'over protective' a kitchen fitter's being when the install may not even have RCD protection.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

All i'm getting at is it's all well and good chuckling at how 'over protective' a kitchen fitter's being when the install may not even have RCD protection.

and whats PVC/metal channel got to do with RCDs?....or `additional protection`?..

 

[SafetyFirst]

Well if this installation is to be suitable to 17th edition standards i'd like to know if it's protected by a RCD thats all.

Capping or no capping.

Is that ok with you Glenn?

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Well if this installation is to be suitable to 17th edition standards i'd like to know if it's protected by a RCD thats all.

Capping or no capping.

Is that ok with you Glenn?

i`ll have a think about it...

 

[worzol99]

Makes you laugh, i bet half the so called electricians on this forum are kitchen fitters(Electrical Trainee)!

 

[Hiddo]

Makes you laugh, i bet half the so called electricians on this forum are kitchen fitters(Electrical Trainee)!

A bit harsh that!! I've seen many a crap job by electricians with many years experience and some great jobs by the kitchen fitters/builders (Electrical Trainee's).

A crap install is a crap install regardless of who is responsible for the installation and bad advice is bad advice regardless of who it came from.

 

[SLSpark]

If clearance of 50mm from the surface cannot be achieved capping should be used along with being rcd protected

 

[electric will]

If clearance of 50mm from the surface cannot be achieved capping should be used along with being rcd protected

5 out of 10

 

[SLSpark]

522-06-06

 

[electric will]

Cappings not mechanical protection

 

[derek preece]

As was said in post #4 capping is only to protect the cable from the plasters trowel.

 

[Geoffsd]

522-06-06

Do you not have the latest edition - or even the one before that?

You're winding us up, aren't you?

 

[SLSpark]

How did you see through the cracks Geoff !!!

 

[Geoffsd]

How did you see through the cracks Geoff !!!

There was no capping.

 

[SLSpark]

ahaha or mechanical protection

 

[electric will]

ahaha or mechanical protection

You don't need either if cable is rcd protected and in a safe zone 552.6.6

 

[SLSpark]

You don't need either if cable is rcd protected and in a safe zone 552.6.6

Wow that took you only 22mins to find the page and read it well done electric will

 

[electric will]

What you on about ? I said in a earlier post it wasn't seen as mechanical protection, after your post about needing it and a rcd, if cable was less than 50 mm

 

[electric will]

And if you look, I quoted the same reg number as you, trusting that you'd listed the correct one as I've got better things to do than go and get my book.

 

[SLSpark]

Ok will , that wasn't what u answered u just said none were required if in safe zone etc etc , not that it wasn't mechanical protection , we had already "worked" that one out
Pretty slow for a arms member you guys usually have it memorized back to front like the karran

 

[SLSpark]

Your input has been 0% helpfull will once again from arms member ,

 

[electric will]

Its not needed in a safe zone, neither is it classed as mechanical protection nor is it earthed.
you said you needed it along with a rcd if less than 50mm, I was clearly pointing out it wouldn't make any difference if you capped the cable or not.

 

[SLSpark]

Better than fishing

 

[Knobhead]

You don't need either if cable is rcd protected and in a safe zone 552.6.6

They're famous last words

 

[SafetyFirst]

We still don't know if this install is RCD protected do we??

 

[electric will]

They're famous last words

dont you start stirring things up!:evil:

 

[Knobhead]

Would I?