Replacing a 13A plug fuse with solid brass

[littlespark]

In a hidden position, a 15A round pin fuseless plug and socket can be fitted on the appliance, with an an FCU above. Then only one fuse to blow.

My suggestion does away with the question of whether to cut off a moulded plug or not.

In reality, no socket behind a kitchen appliance should be made inaccessible.
Couple of screws at most, and even the heaviest of equipment can be moved.

The original question of replacing the plug top fuse with a solid link is of course “no”

 

[John-SJW]

My suggestion does away with the question of whether to cut off a moulded plug or not.

In reality, no socket behind a kitchen appliance should be made inaccessible.
Couple of screws at most, and even the heaviest of equipment can be moved.

The original question of replacing the plug top fuse with a solid link is of course “no”

Yes, to keep the moulded plug. But a solid link in a moulded plug only gives one fuse on an accessible FCU.
No, the solid links are not available any longer?

If the manufacturer is OK with cutting off the moulded plug, then a 15A round pin is the way to go.

 

[goasis]

No, the solid links are not available any longer?

100 posts later..... is there an echo in here?!!

 

[John-SJW]

I really don't see why you keep pushing this. How many times do your kitchen appliances blow fuses for no reason. If they do it often then I suggest there is something wrong. And if there's something wrong then the appliance is coming out anyway.

And what about using a 20A switch instead of FCU?

Putting a 15A plug on appliances is not a good solution to your 'problem'.

If the manufacturer is fine on cutting off the moulded plug, then a 15A round in an inaccessible location is the way to go, as long as there is an accessible FCU.

Many servicemen are told by the manufacturers that the appliance must be 100% isolated to work on it - that is remove a plug - not trusting that FCU are DP isolation. Hard wire in a fridge and many will not unscrew the appliance cable from the cable outlet then walk away. So a 15A plug is the way.

Also out of the way plugs with fuses can have the plug run hot unbeknown to the user. The heat is invariably around the fuse. A 15A plug with no fuse is safer.

 

[John-SJW]

100 posts later..... is there an echo in here?!!

Do you know if they are still available or guessing?

 

[John-SJW]

Welcome back John. I hope you get a bite.

I have not had one yet, as no one knows if the solid links are still available.

 

[DPG]

Do you know if they are still available or guessing?

Nobody in their right mind would fit one, so I expect not. If you have tried to buy them and cannot, then that proves the point.

I suspect you will still keep asking though. Are you bored again?

 

[John-SJW]

People here have written that an appliance say under a worktop should have a plug in an adjacent cupboard. Of course a good way. If the accesible cupboard is many cupboards away, with the appliance lead not reaching, then an FCU and 15A socket/plug behind the appliance is the best way around it. Assuming the makers are fine with their moulded plug being removed.

 

[DPG]

People here have written that an appliance say under a worktop should have a plug in an adjacent cupboard. Of course a good way. If the accesible cupboard is many cupboards away, with the appliance lead not reaching, then an FCU and 15A socket/plug behind the appliance is the best way around it. Assuming the makers are fine with their moulded plug being removed.

As long as you're happy, that's all we can hope for.

 

[John-SJW]

Nobody in their right mind would fit one

Complete nonsense. That is the same as saying "nobody in their right mind would fit 15A fuseless plug behind an appliance."

A solid link converts a 13A plug into a fuseless plug - not difficult to grasp. Guess what? Fuseless plugs are legal.

 

[John-SJW]

As long as you're happy, that's all we can hope for.

It was just a general comment.

 

[DPG]

Complete nonsense. That is the same as saying "nobody in their right mind would fit 15A fuseless plug behind an appliance."

A solid link converts a 13A plug into a fuseless plug - not difficult to grasp. Guess what? Fuseless plugs are legal.

I know you just try and get a response from people, so I'll keep biting.

You keep wanting us to answer your question of whether links are available for 13A plugs. After 100+ posts surely even you have realised that nobody on here knows where to buy them. Do you accept that, yes or no?

 

[ipf]

This lot's enough to make the decision 15amp connectors and tape. ?

 

[westward10]

I have not had one yet, as no one knows if the solid links are still available.

I have been in my trade pushing forty years and I have never come across a manufactured solid link for a 13A plug. This obviously does not mean they have never existed but I doubt they have done, why would a manufacturer produce such a thing, how would they certify it as a compatible component for a 13A plug so that it doesn't affect the safety of the original product. A few years back products were being imported, in particular cctv equipment which came with a fitted moulded plug but no fuse, these were flagged up by Trading Standards as non compliant and dangerous.

 

[John-SJW]

So to bottom line.

1. No one here has ever come across a solid 13A link, I have, or knows where to buy one.
2. 15A fuseless plug can be fitted behind an appliance in inaccessible locations as long as an accessible FCU isolator is fitted.

 

[DPG]

So to bottom line.

1. No one here has ever come across a solid 13A link, I have, or knows where to buy one.
2. 15A fuseless plug can be fitted behind an appliance in inaccessible locations as long as an accessible FCU is fitted.

Even I'm bored now ?

 

[westward10]

So to bottom line.

1. No one here has ever come across a solid 13A link, I have, or knows where to buy one.
2. 15A fuseless plug can be fitted behind an appliance in inaccessible locations as long as an accessible FCU is fitted.

Several of us will have come across solid links but they were not off the shelf products they would have been home made. There is nothing to say you cannot fit an alternative plug which does not incorporate a fuse however the appliance instructions are likely to suggest, in the UK it should be a 13A plug.

 

[John-SJW]

I have been in my trade pushing forty years and I have never come across a manufactured solid link for a 13A plug. This obviously does not mean they have never existed but I doubt they have done,

I have come across 13A solid links, and knew guys who used them. Not seen one for years, hence this thread. They may not be available any longer as the demand is not there. Nothing in any reg say they are illegal. Solid links are available for many applications.

The link simple converts a fused 13A plug into a fuseless, eliminating a gfuse -a s do all solid links. Fuseless plugs are legal being for sale - 15A.

A few years back products were being imported in particular cctv equipment which came with a fitted moulded plug but no fuse, these were flagged up by Trading Standards as non compliant and dangerous.

Those are general portable appliances. A heavy fitted appliance is different - some are even hard wired in.

 

[John-SJW]

Several of us will have come across solid links but they were not off the shelf products they would have been home made. There is nothing to say you cannot fit an alternative plug which does not incorporate a fuse however the appliance instructions are likely to suggest, in the UK it should be a 13A plug.

Some instructions do state various specifics. My oven instructions does not, just connected by a competent electrician and the likes. In the latter there are no problems from the makers when making a guarantee claim.

 

[John-SJW]

Several of us will have come across solid links but they were not off the shelf products they would have been home made.

There is nothing saying you cannot make your own solid link.