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Not a chance" ' bit of luck the spanish armada will have to go back to fishing it's own waters now. a golden opportunity for pirate to raid without losing sight of his balcony.'
The reason our fishing industry was decimated was because the govt. refused to support it in the same way the French and Spanish govt's did.At present we do not have a profitable farming industry and our fishing industry was decimated when we agreed to allow EU coastal nations fish most of our waters.
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Now we are leaving there is a desperate attempt to make us follow EU rules and laws and play a 'level playing field' basically they know how strong our position is and we could hit the EU really hard by competing on the doorstep, the thing is the EU cannot match or offer the tariffs and free trade we can now do with other countries due to the way its protectionist Single Market operates.
As long as Johnson stays tough on love and sticks to full divergence and pushes deals with the other big world players then we can only prosper and I mean an economic boost not seen in generations, even all our major contracts no longer have to be fielded to all EU members which again will boost our building sectors... if we give in to any EU demands then we lose most of our opportunities, we stick at a full exit and even WTO would be a better outcome then ending up eternally tied to EU in some regularity way, but as the EU are in a very bad negotiating position now all we will see is blustering, threats which eventually will turn to begging like solutions (PS .. that has already started from some major EU representatives who no longer can deny the position the UK is in)
My point was we had to give up the majority of our fishing grounds when we first joined, that was balanced out with access to Icelands fishing grounds but if I recall it was 2012 that Iceland pulled which desimated our industries, the EU should have rebalanced the EU fishing quotas to reflect Iceland pulling out but like as always has been the case they ignored our pleas, they had no issue watching our industry crumble just so they kept the status quo with all the other coastal EU members.Hi darkwood, I don't see any citations in your posts. This is a good summation of the present situation:
I don't have the time to "trawl" through the endless eu and gov't documents to find the exact data. As the article above states the decline of our fishing ports was mainly due to Icelandic legislation, the sale of quotas has been documented for years in all the papers.Britain's fishy role in the quota-hopping scandal
Foreign vessels are legally taking a large chunk of the UK's fishing quota. But it is our own government's double-think and double-talk that is to blame rather than the minefield of EU rules, says John Lichfieldwww.independent.co.uk
get your clan skirt and claymore dusted off. this is war, you sweaty sock. . and don't forget, it was Napoleon who first though of a channel tunnel, so his frogs could conquer us Brits.Overly strong worded there, Tel. I’m sure our closest euro neighbours don’t like being called frogs.
Now get back to theiving, you scouse git.
..I'm ready for Em frogs - "Get a Jolt from my Electrodes"...Napoleon who first though of a channel tunnel, so his frogs could conquer us Brits.
I'll agree with the cod war situation and yes it hit the fishing industry but nothing like when Iceland fully pulled out, and where was the EU to realise our situation, turned its back and basically said stick it, again I will reflect on the reversal of the situation and now how the EU is demanding we cannot do to those countries the same as they did to us, there is gross irony here and what may come is well deserved in my opinion, I am epathetic for the fishermen that may lose out but they cannot attack us for this, they should reflect on there own governments past selfish position and that of the EU before blaming us."My point was we had to give up the majority of our fishing grounds when we first joined, that was balanced out with access to Icelands fishing grounds but if I recall it was 2012 that Iceland pulled which decimated our industries, "
Iceland extended the fishing limits to 200 miles in 1975, recognised by Britain in 1976 after the cod wars.
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" this is why we were buying fish from countries that caught it in our own waters and paying premium price for it."
My recollection is that the fishing companies were getting a better price in Europe than in Britain.
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